Nunu - jack of all trades, master of none?

Warbotus··1 votes·516 views

Hi all,

I would like to propose giving a more distinct role to Nunu. ATM, IMHO, Nunu can arguably play top, bot or jungle but is lacking something in all roles to make it more valuable champion.

I don't really feel I'm good gamer enough to make valuable balance suggestions so here are just some random thoughts based on my gaming experience so far:

  • bot: add heal to W, make Nunu attacks ranged (he throughs snowballs after all)
  • jungle/top: Volibear and Trundle can bite champions. If Nunu could do the same it would allow him to better counter attack melee champions. He could make a small damage or quick stun with it.
  • all lane: R is very hard to land. I realize it is his trademark but maybe he can have something more to fight with since Iceblast is practically reduced to slow as many champs have considerable magic resistance late game? Have you consider making his abilities be rage or energy based instead of mana?

Thanks for consideration.

11 Comments

AtheosisX2 votes

He is arguably the best counter-jungler in the game. Is that not a distinct role?

Warbotus1 votes

He probably is ATM but is that enough to choose him over other alternatives?

Nunu is not a best ganker and has no gap close. He needs farm to build up items for E and R in order for those to do reasonable amount of damage mid and late game. You would probably benefit from pumping up Q for counter-jungling and yet it becomes almost useless mid or late game.

It is similar situation with support role - it is great you can blood boil your ADC but you come up short with pretty much anything else.

You can sort of play him top or mid but there are many better picks for those.

I don't know - with gap closing ability we could have great top/jungle champion, with an extra support ability we could have a bot supporter, with another ranged ability - a magi.

As it is now it's a great buddy you can have on your team but it seems that he very often have to step aside and make a room for a more role specific champion. It's a shame.

ZeroAnarchy1 votes

Nunu is not one to deal damage, he's a jungler that is god at taking objectives and making his ADC god with bloodboil. He's extremely good at peeling for his team. If you think Nunu is in a bad spot, then you are very wrong.

Warbotus1 votes

OK, I guess you're right - support jungler is probably a position that he is ATM.

Wouldn't you like him to be a "true" jungler? How about: casting Q on a champion makes Nunu jump to his location a bite him, making smaller amount of damage and slowing him down for 0,5 sec or so? Let's at least give Nunu a chance to gank, sort of.

This still would not make him assassin or damage dealer but he would be more useful mid/late game.

Quepha1 votes

OK, I guess you're right - support jungler is probably a position that he is ATM.

Wouldn't you like him to be a "true" jungler? How about: casting Q on a champion makes Nunu jump to his location a bite him, making smaller amount of damage and slowing him down for 0,5 sec or so? Let's at least give Nunu a chance to gank, sort of.

This still would not make him assassin or damage dealer but he would be more useful mid/late game.

it sounds like you just want to play a completely different champion.

ZeroAnarchy1 votes

He is a true jungler, his consume is basically another smite which as I said earlier makes him better at getting objectives compared to other junglers. He is useful mid/late game, he has a lot of peel and bloodboil to make his ADC pretty much god. The only thing I'd like to see changed is making his ult a little easier to actually be able to get the full channel off.

Chaotic Reks1 votes

WHO NEEDS MOBILITY WHEN YOU CAN THROW BIG PIECES OF FROZEN DEATH THAT ONE-SHOT THE SQUISHIES

Quepha1 votes

nunu might have the clearest specialization of anyone in the game. no champion compares to his jungle objective control.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

Well, i wouldsay it´´s not so much the lack of dinstinct role as it is a lack of gameplay...his strength pretty much is allowing the ADC to carry harder, though unlike other supportive Champs all this happens more or less passive/per point&click. He just doesn´t feel compelling to play. He at least would need some decent Auto-Attack-Enhancement or sth. similar to encourage him to do sth. more in a fight than w-ing his carry and throwing iceblasts at anything that comes near while reading the newspaper.

Warbotus1 votes

What I had in mind with more distinctive role was:

  • you will hardly see Nunu being picked for a lane job

This, IMHO, is pointing to a fact that something is missing and that are more valuable picks for this

  • you can see Nunu being picked as a counter-jungle role

However, since he lacks assassin abilities, team needs to count that they are in fact having 2 support champions and thus 1 champ less to carry out damage. It is great that Nunu has 2 smites but this may or may not workout as a benefit when you are facing a good teamwork crew. Nunu dies very often in team fights in front of a dragon/baron unable to utilize his 2 smites and when this happens his contribution is arguable. This is a risk you need to count in when picking Nunu as a jungler.

I'm not trying to underestimate possible contributions Nunu might have on objectives, it's just that I feel that in many cases this is not enough and team ends up being weaker. As you said, it really feels like he is reading newspapers most of the mid/late game.

Ale non è male1 votes

Nunu need to get some form of resistance upon his ult, other than that he is fine

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