Zileans Ultimate + Athene's Unholy Grail? Not functioning?

Jack The Mouse·5/15/2016, 5:01:01 AM·2 votes·2,590 views

Howdy. I'm simply making this minor discussion to ask a question about the new mage items. Not that this is a massive deal or anything, but considering the new patch 6.9 and all the new items it introduced, as a bit of a weirdo Zilean Zilean main, I was pretty skeptical. As it turns out, item 3174 Athene's Unholy Grail is meant to be the new "Damage but also with a heal" kind of item meant for all the Taric Taric, Karma Karma, Thresh Thresh, Soraka Soraka, and Janna Janna's of the world. Regardless though, I thought it'd be interesting to buy it on Zilean like I always have. My early build as a support zilean main has always been a item 3070 Tear of the Goddess, item 3174 Athene's Unholy Grail, and item 3158 Boots of Lucidity, so I thought the change could only be helpuful. However, it seems like the new passive on the Grail doesn't function with Zil's ultimate. I was kinda hoping it would, as zilean is a very high damage poke support, and yet he has an ult in the form of an AP Scaling revive. Now, in the text of "Chronoshift", it says the ally "regains" so and so hitpoints upon being revived. I don't know if this wording nullifies my claim, but I still think a "Restore ally to 1 hp" and followed by "regain a certain amount of HP" should count as a heal. I feel like it would make it a very nice corner piece to zilean, as the CDR and AP is more then welcome, and making zileans ultimate even stronger when he's being this aggro support like he was built to be would be nice. Any clarity?summoner 13

11 Comments

QjTHqo3RTq5/15/2016, 7:02:19 AM2 votes

Thresh with Unholy Grail, what in hell are you smoking dude

Karbuncle5/15/2016, 1:06:54 PM2 votes

Does grail work with targons?

Captain Aishi5/15/2016, 8:58:56 PM2 votes

zilean ult is not a heal, it's a current health increase (so that it can't be affected by grievous wounds in any possible way, like lulu, nasus and renekton ultimates)

Fondling Gems5/15/2016, 5:11:29 AM1 votes

do you know if this works on windspeakers too?

Automatis5/15/2016, 5:13:40 AM1 votes

item 3174 is garbo now just build item 3165 like a real AP and get some actual use out of the scaling + a useful passive.