i cant understand... the point of this game is entertaining and yet after launching zoe and giving entertainment at best they nerf zoe hard just to put her worse then aurelion which now zoe makes competion to see whos the worst lol champ.. i just cant understand... Riot party that nerfed zoe is just ridiculous not to say worse.. if you dont like losing against a zoe nerf her but dont put her worse then aurelion...
PeachyPosterior3 votesShe has buffs on the PBE right now that should go live when 8.5 does.
Malix Farwin2 votesShe has buffs on the PBE right now that should go live when 8.5 does.
They aren't buffs they are re-adjustments. Q base is going up but more sparkles is going away which nets in Q doing slightly less. the 20% hit to splash damage is to keep the Q damage on AoE doing roughly as much as it does now on live.
Colton1472 votes
is 
2.0. 
Gutted into no longer being viable and is pretty much a troll pick/auto-loss.
Bodhwell2 votesThe Q and W changes on the PBE currently should net to a buff on both wave clear (from Q) and more consistent team fight damage (from W missiles).
Malix Farwin1 votesThe Q and W changes on the PBE currently should net to a buff on both wave clear (from Q) and more consistent team fight damage (from W missiles).
Not really, more sparkles is being removed from Q which is huge. It nets a small nerf to Q damage. The buff to the scaling could improve things but with how much less AP you get now(example: 
used to give 100 AP at 3200 gold now 90 AP at 3300 gold) and her weak wave clear, she may still struggle to get the gold early to do anything meaningful.
Bodhwell1 votesWe'll have to see, but the context I read recently said that this change was intended to make wave clear easier.
I was unsure of the passive removal, too. But my intuition is that the combination of changes will help a lot.
The scalings do matter though, regardless of how the AP items have changed. A 40% buff in AP scaling is significant. You also have to consider that the base damage of Q has been buffed by a good amount and there's a new level-based scaling and they increased the range (which means you can make it travel farther and get more distance-based damage).
I'm optimistic.
EDIT Okay, decided to try her on the PBE a bit. Waveclear is about the same in the early game, but it does feel a LOT better later. Also, that W damage packs a punch now. It could end up feeling different on live, of course.
MagicFlyingLlama1 votesStill fine, learn to use more than Q.
vgamedude4 votesLiterally last place in winrate by a 3 percent or so margin
"totally fine!"
MagicFlyingLlama1 votesLiterally last place in winrate by a 3 percent or so margin
"totally fine!"
Almost like every other champion who got a big rebalance.
All the trash people who are just on the FoTM OP abuse bandwagon will leave, the actually good players will adapt to the changes, and winrate will level off.
vgamedude1 votesya totally dude even swain the day of his rework didnt have that low of a winrate.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesWhen you said "entertainment", are you referring to just the Zoe players or her victims who got one-shotted from full HP?
