ahri changes (who am i kidding, nerfs) and zeds tap on the wrist MEGA THREAD

Vexus·1/29/2015, 6:44:54 PM·6 votes·675 views

a showing of how strong the comunity feels about the "changes" :^) you gave to one of leagues most beloved champions, ahri. rip. gone but not forgotten.

You nerfed ahri but not gnar? nata (NA) submitted about 9 hours ago in Gameplay & Balance Really? The champion that can 50% an entire team with a full tank build? really? and dont tell me it takes a massive amount of skill to play him. his laning phase is easy and so is his teamfight. his jumping around bullshit is too good of an escape

Here's the problem I have. I don't know how it is in lower ELO's but Gnar when played with a semi-experienced gnar player has no weakness other than against champions with low cd all ins with massive gap closers(nobody). His jump isn't his only escape mechanism, his slow works as one as well. His weakness is SUPPOSED to be his squishy form in lane, but it's just as strong as his mega form. THEN when he gets out of mega form you can't get ANYWHERE near him because of his mobility. There is so little room to outplay this champion or even counterplay when played at a certain level and it's ridiculous.

His slow is easy to hit, he's manaless which means nonstop harass and escape spams and his mega gnar form's spells are ALL ccs with MASSIVE amounts of damage and animation delay on champions that it hits, and to top it off, just like Cassiopeia, if you get in range and get hit by one of his slows while running away, you get punished incredibly hard.

I'm not saying to nerf this champion to oblivion, but at least nerf his mobility so he'd have to play atleast SOMEWHAT safe in lane. It's WAY too tough to win lane 1v1 or even farm under tower against him and I can safely say he has no real hard counter."

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I have no desire to play Ahri anymore Nasreth (NA) submitted about 2 hours ago in Gameplay & Balance Don't get me wrong, she's still fun to play. BUT, She used to be unique, and now she's just another generic kiting mage like so many other champions.

The amplification on her charm, her identity as an assassin, that's what made me enjoy playing Ahri. When I wanted to play a kite/teamfight mage, I picked Orianna and Azir. Those picks already existed in abundance. Ahri fit a particular niche that I really enjoyed on occasion, but she's lost that feeling entirely.

I don't understand why Riot wants to homogenize every champion into the same generic archetype. I really feel they should have left her the same way."

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I don't understand why Riot wants to homogenize every champion into the same generic archetype. I really feel they should have left her the same way."

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@Riot Assassin Ahri? KyrosTheMystic (NA) submitted about 23 hours ago in Gameplay & Balance Allow me to start this off by saying I am perfectly fine with Riot trying to make Mage Ahri more present in her identity in her kit and itemization (through removal of DFG). However as someone who has grown to love her assassin/burst pattern, I was really saddened to see the removal of the damage amp on her Charm. The damage she does now (in terms of burst, not overall) I felt on PBE and still feel on live. I really just don't feel like playing Ahri anymore, and I was really looking forward to maining her this season after I got my placements done (I went 9/1 and got Gold 3).

To put it bluntly, I don't play Ahri to tickle the enemy teams balls from distance with my Q and W. A 'kite/poke' mage isn't why I liked her. I love her design, personality, VFX, voice, mobility, and (formerly) her ability to blow people up in spectacular fox-spirity fashion. To the people who do like that 'wear people down and eventually pick them off' style, good for you. This is a great patch for you, not so for me. If I wanted to play that kind of style, I would play... basically any ADC. That's what ADC does, slowly chunk people down until they get the kill shot/burst.

I see Riot promoting a lot of versatile play in kits (Nidalee hunt on jungle camps), and through items (the new season jungle items and pots), but they basically dropped Assassin Ahri into the trash and barely touched on her at all, instead speaking primarily on the half of Mage Ahri. While I could accept the removal of DFG as it was just an overkill item causing a toxic cycle of balancing, the removal of the Charm Amp on top was just too big of a hit. That's 40% of her damage during her burst window gone in one patch. Buffing the base damage on her Charm and the ratio isn't fair compensation for people who liked her Assassin play.

On top of this, without the damage amp on Charm... Charm is now, once again like it was a long time ago, now a very lackluster skill to use. Yes it still provides CC, but there isn't the satisfaction of landing it proper and blowing them up. Now you land it, deal a bit of damage, go on with your day. And you do this in the same patch as making Annie's Fire Shield (also a lackluster skill) now a LARGE part of playing Tibbers? I just... I don't get it.

So, do you plan on letting people play her as an Assassin proper ever again? Or are you going to continue adjusting her as a kite/poke mage and alienate a portion of the players who liked Ahri in the first place? I know the old saying 'Riot hates assassins' isn't true. You made Zed for gods sake. I just would like an answer, maybe even discussion from Riot about us. The Assassin Ahri players, which I've not really seen touched on by anyone at Riot.

I would sincerely appreciate a response.

A concerned Ahri player, KyrosTheMystic"

This is but a few of the ahri threads swarming around on NA, all the other servers are exactly the same. If you canot see what you are doing wrong then there is no hope of us changing it now.

but there is just one thing i dont get YOU DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYER BASE AT ALL, I DONT MEAN TO RAGE BUT JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ARE YOU PEOPLE IGNORANT OR DO YOU JUST NOT GIVE A FLYING FUCK? ON PBE ALL EVERYONE WAS TELLING YOU IS HOW RETARDED THE SERIOUS CHANGES YOU ARE MAKING BY REMOVING DFG and THE 20% DMG AMP ON HER CHARM.

I MAY AS WELL PISS ON MY MONITOR BECAUSE THAT HOW EFFECTIVE CHARM IS NOW

sorry about all the yelling but that needed to come out.

How can you honestly justify shitting on the whole playstyle of a champion and forcing players to build her in only one way? I though that on multiple occasions rioters have said that they wont to promote diversity on the rift.

Well good job on that because now your golden boy zed is the only really viable assassin in the mid lane. booo whoo he got a AS nerf, cry me a river. its not like a fairly substantial AS iteem is core on him at all :^) and its soooo great having his passive and the botrk passive almost one hit you without even using a spell. (not to mention the executioners mastery)

It would be a shame that if you are a ap mid laner you are basically given the choice to either buy the costly seekers arm guard that gives none of the early game stats that you want or lose lane to the zed who comes back to lane with whatever the heck items his heart desires and you still have to dance around his endless poke. Poke that costs hardly anything and that he can farm safely with in the event that he made a mistake and does not have complete and utter lane dominance.
And then there is the ever looming threat of him going all in on you, which he will do whenever he fucking feels like it. And if you are able to duke the point blank ninja stars of armageddon prey that he forgets to use the blade of no fucking escape passive what will slow you the fuck down ON TOP OF THE E SHADOW SLOW so that he can wack your face untill you go pop.

In the likely situation that you die you may think that your tower will at least get you even with him untill you realize he hasn't used his free insta flash back to his 3rd shadow that also clones his skills for even more damage -_-.

But no lets shit on ahri and tap golden boy on the wrist.

#lcsbigplays #balanceteamishelpingg:^)

ahri changes (who am i kidding, nerfs) and zeds tap on the wrist MEGA THREAD

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