So when are the Support Reworks?

TheGr8WhiteD·12/1/2015, 11:35:19 PM·2 votes·660 views

I dont understand why riot did the Marksman reworks for the Preseason (even though ADCs were in a bad position), when support has been the least played and least wanted role in who knows how long. Seriously, how many times in ranked have you had to have somebody fill the support role because no one mains it or how many times have you gone into teambuilder and seen Support with 3 arrows up and maybe marksman with 2? Im pretty sure everyone can agree that the support role has needed a boost, but no one is talking about it.

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AuraSilver12/2/2015, 12:11:33 AM2 votes

The support champs are actually in a pretty good position right now. They new Keystone masteries have made them more effective, and the starting support items got a boost, especially item 3092 . The issue lies in how supports are treated. I main support and we get so much verbal abuse thrown at us. Pretty much every other game you run into:

a) ADCs who act like you're their own personal slave and complain if you have the nerve to help out someone else at all - expecting you to only use your support abilities on them regardless if its a late game teamfight and someone else needs the help more.

b) ADCs who die and blame you even when their death was their own fault. Ex. they went in when you had no mana or your spells were on cooldown (bonus points for complaining you didn't use your ult when it was on cooldown and special bonus points when you're not even level 6 yet) or they got themselves into a bad position where attempting to save them would lead to both of your deaths.

c) ADCs who harass you when you die a single time (being like 'gg shit support report (support player) for feeding' and continue going on and on about it instead of playing the game)

d) ADCs who don't follow up (say you used your cc on an enemy that got too close, or ult them so they can tank a turret or take out an enemy but they do nothing.)

e) The team expecting you to be the sole warder (even though you usually can only place 3 stealth wards and 1 vision ward) and then blame you when they die to a gank because they didn't ward their lane.

f) Raging when the support gets a kill and complains about kill stealing. I personally have the biggest issue with this one, because most of the time you're just trying to do your job (ex. using cc to stop them from running away) and happen to get the kill. And almost every time I think "okay they're low so I'll just back away so they don't bitch at me for KSing" either the enemy gets away, or the enemy gets a kill (or more) AND gets away.

g) If you're playing passively due to worries about the above happening, expect the ADC to yell at you for playing passively. And of course, bonus points when you play aggressively to please them and either a) die because they want you to go in at level 2 or b) kill the enemy and they complain about KSing or c) don't kill the enemy to try and avoid KS complaints and then they yell at you for not finishing them off.

As much as I love playing the role, it takes away the fun when you're being harassed every other game, and also takes away the fun when you're constantly worried about being harassed. It makes me not want to play the role sometimes even though I almost always play healer-types in every other multiplayer game. And yes I know, mute button, I have used it, but it doesn't remove the issue, and makes it so you might miss out of legitimate messages. And from my experience reporting does absolutely nothing.

Also, a relevant video from Sky Williams, despite being 2 years old, holds just as true today. (warning: may be offensive to some): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8N5yTdGhIU&ab_channel=SkyWilliams

Also another bonus: Like in the video, if you decide you won't stand for being treated that way and say, decide to support someone else, or go offense or something instead, prepare to be called a troll by the entire team and possibly reported. Fun times.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

TL;DR: It's really an issue with how they're treated and not the support champs themselves.

Deep Terror Nami12/1/2015, 11:40:11 PM1 votes

how many times in ranked have you had to have somebody fill the support role because no one mains it

Never.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

There's nothing wrong with support the way it is. Many like to be the one that is flashy and kills people 1v1. If Riot were to give them that in support, then it'd just be another carry and the support role that Supp mains like me play it for would be screwed because all 5 players have the same damn job.

But Riot can't really control this anyway. "Supporting" in the bot lane is what the players created. It's done the way it is because it's more efficient, not because we have to. If you want to play double carry in the bot lane then you can still do it.

BeatzBoyFTW12/1/2015, 11:42:21 PM1 votes

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They already partly did.

Abyssphere12/2/2015, 12:16:27 AM1 votes

Support is a fine role. It's just never going to be popular because it's not a role that gets glory - this is why pure tanks as a class are never popular in comparison to assassins, even when strong.

Support cannot be support while being popular. But the people who main support love it, so it's fine.