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5.1.1 nerd on Leblanc.

IceButt··3 votes·874 views

Dear riot, I am a bronze III low elo player, I know I have no right to judge her newly nerf, but it did destroy my favorite champ of all time and my love to this game, I have been playing her for a good amount of time now, people doesn't see the straggle when you are just starting playing her as a mid laner, it takes a long ass time to be mastered at her, all they see is then the good lb players go ham and stomp mid and complain about it, all champs are equally strong as long as you take the time to master them. I recently started ranked with her, and for the love of God, she is my only hope to get out of bronze. I didn't play her in rank till recently is because her last nerf taking off the silence off of her q, it was a huge nerf to her, I think anyone who main mid will understand this, you are basically give your opponents endless options to escape, and due to her long early game CDs, she only gets one chance to catch her opponent off guard, if she miss her w after q-r combo, then she is in a very bad spot to be CCed and get stomped on like a rat, but she still have her life saver which is her e, if you can land your e and slow/chain them, there is a lot higher chance of you escaping. But the newly nerf on her complete destroy her lane kill potential and her get away ability. However I do agree that she need a change with her abilitys so that she does not snowball as hard, but I don't think what they are doing to her in this patch is the right thing to do to her. So plz riot, fix it before I come to you build and destroy everything with the newly buffed Joyce and force you to change it. Thank you

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Only Play Darius3 votes

Playing against LeBlanc (especially as an immobile champ) is nothing but torture. Sorry but until she gets the rework she desperately needs, she is going to get nerfs.

LeBlanc players are also the most toxic players I ever encounter in League, so I couldn't care less about your feelings.

Mafia LeBlanc1 votes

Every single champion has the potential to be massively frustrating. Fizz/vlad go untargettable, trynd is unkillable and split pushes forever, eve pops out of nowhere and forces you to spend all your money on pinks, teemo is teemo. How about how massively frustrating Shaco is? Why isn't he nerfed to oblivion yet?

If you're just going to nerf champs based on how they frustrate people, then delete every single champion in the game and make them all identical. Every single character has something that is frustrating about them, and if they ever became popular, they'd get destroyed too because noobs complain instead of adapting to deal with the champion themselves.

Only Play Darius2 votes

Name one other champ with 2 dashes, 2 teleports, a mini shaco ult on passive, AND the ability to blow you up instantly.

Mafia LeBlanc1 votes

This is exactly my point - you can literally do this with every single champion - just list what they're good at and completely ignore all their weaknesses. Name any random champion and you can just do this and make them look OP and complain.

Only Play Darius1 votes

What's her weakness? Getting bursted down. Good luck with that!

Mafia LeBlanc1 votes

She has a lot - her dash is interruptable, preventing all damage. Her damage is dependant on performing a combo - if you break the combo with disables or banshee, it plummets her dmg. If you get a kill on her in lane, she becomes near worthless all game. She has negative HP, and dies from a single disable in a teamfight. She has no sustain, so any damage you do to her sticks. The nature of her kit having zero sustained damage means if she can't burst you in one go, she plummets in effectiveness. A banshee on your ADC totally wrecks her late game potential. She is literally a one-trick pony. If she can't oneshot the adc, she dies instantly, and the adc will just lifesteal it all back in five seconds.

If you look back on all the so-called OP champs that were nerfed, she is really tame - she's not even that powerful of a champion in terms of securing the win - she's just good at killing champs and hoping the rest of the team can secure objectives. No matter how fed LeBlanc gets, if her team sucks, she can't win.

If you want a legitimately OP champion from recent history - post-remake Mid AP Evelynn with DFG, chunking entire teams for over 10k combined damage from stealth, with no chance to retaliate or prevent it from happening. She could 1-shot you from stealth faster than LeBlanc, and with even less recourse. This is a champion who was OP because of her teamfight potential -in addition- to her oneshotting champions. This means if Evelynn ever got fed, the game was automatically over, because now your team had zero chance in teamfights due to Eve being able to build tanky and not having to rely on killing the enemy in a single combo. LeBlanc really struggles in teamfights, and even if she's 29/0/20, she can still die at any moment from a single mistake, and lose the entire game in a split second. Most other champs if they're fed that hard are able to take some punishment, but if LB builds tanky at all, she loses her ability to oneshot and then she is useless.

And beyond all this, she can just be beaten in champ select. AD champions naturally have an advantage since they usually get scaling MR, access to hexdrinker, and can build Lifesteal to counter her in lane. She is countered by champions with any combination of high mobility, reliable poke, high burst potential, point and click or instant disables, high wave clear, sustain, shields, and general tankiness. Cho and Lulu are her hardest lane counters, but many others have a lot of tools to deal with her. It just takes quick thinking and maybe some jungler presence, but that's the same for any champion.

atomicwit2 votes

Logic: LB nerfs mean it's no longer possible to carry out of Bronze with her. How much money do you want to put on that theory?

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

I'll bet a Coupon for half off from Radio Shack ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Mafia LeBlanc1 votes

I agree - the meta is shifting to tanky characters, she's going to get nerfed just by the common picks. I think she's still going to be ok for people who main her, but you're right that she's going to be much more difficult for newer players.

I think it was a silly nerf, tbh, and I honestly think that she was going to see a lot less play even without the change; I've noticed her banned much less in the past few weeks.

Grashnim1 votes

Changing her W made her die. GGWP. Find another mid laner, looks like Azir, Ekko, Kog'maw, etc.. are the FotM

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