FEX Placements system is garbage.

Aerothyl V2··1 votes·888 views
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Im really annoyed about this since i played all day long

as you can see my placements where 9 wins 1lose the last game i had to vs all plat team so whe lost after that it was saying bronze 5 when i won 9 games and only lost 1

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The Sword Saint2 votes

They aren't plat in that queue, the plat rank doesn't mean shit. It's not calculated or taken into account when deciding your rank in this queue. You all started from 0 since flex queue is a new queue entirely.

Aerothyl V21 votes

nope the people i played with had the same score and whe played all matches together and some of them got silver 3 some silver 1

LostFr0st1 votes

Where were you last season?

Tormentula1 votes

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Where were you last season?

it shouldn't matter since flex Q is an entirely new ladder and everybody starts at a MMR reset (hence all the diamonds and platinums in silver for some reason).

LostFr0st2 votes

No, they told us that where our mmr was in last year's dynamic would affect it. It's been that way forever. It generally places people lower than where they were, which is why I asked.

nm10103 votes

I believe the pop up on the client at the start of 6.22 stated that it was a fresh start and that solo/duo q would carry over your mmr.

Tormentula2 votes

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No, they told us that where our mmr was in last year's dynamic would affect it. It's been that way forever. It generally places people lower than where they were, which is why I asked.

I think thats only for soloq,

Cause I don't see how my silver 5 friend got silver 2 after flex Q placements, and some diamonds I know are placed in silver.

I'm currently gold 5 with silver 2 in flex q (expected), but if I check lolskill, I'll have atleast 3 platinums in my matches and 2 diamonds in the entire game.

So no, I don't believe for a second MMR for flex q carries over, and if it was intended to then it needs fixed.

LostFr0st1 votes

I'm more than pretty sure it's for both. It's just that in preseason is a clusterfest and things that you listed above happen every year. (even the Silver 5 in S2 and the Diamonds in high Silver.) I'm pretty sure you're referencing their last-year's rank in lolskill, but since mmrs got reset those people are now considered Silver/Gold.

This will keep happening for ~a week until the Plats and Diamonds climb and separate from those with Silver/Gold mmr. Then we can all chill and enjoy some more balanced games in ranked.

Sukishoo1 votes

No it's not. Solo/Duo looks at your Dynamic Q MMR. Flex 5s doesn't care about it, and Flex 3s does use it as a base since it blocks people out that aren't in the same range as you (I tired to queue with a bronze there and it didn't work, but it does in Flex 5s)

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

I generally played around a 1.5 - 1.6k MMR during my flex placement and got S4 lol...

Aerothyl V21 votes

unranked. even if i was unranked doesn't matter i wont 9 out of the 10 games

Jayblaze1 votes

You can see on the screenshot that he/she has no ranked icon for solo/duo q. So pretty much unranked

LostFr0st1 votes

Ah, good catch. So either didn't finish placements or is new. That might mean Riot has changed where new players will land when they play ranked for the first time... so climbing up and out of Bronze will actually mean something... like a trial by fire... hmm I have so many questions now.

Aerothyl V21 votes

If they really wanted for me to start bronze 5 to get experience why do they want me to do 10 placement matches sorry but your comment doesn't make any sense no disrespect

LostFr0st1 votes

Ok, consider this: were you alone or in a 5-stack with higher mmr people? 5-stacks gain less mmr since they should be placed vs higher mmr opponents so that if they win they'll get the appropriate amount of mmr and climb (But everyone was reset now so they have no mmr to grab from their opponents right now). That's the only possible explanation I can think of.

If you were solo then I legit don't understand why you placed B5 other than Riot maybe moving the starting rank for new players.

Aerothyl V21 votes

i was with 5 man team with friend but it doesn't matter FEX is not the same as duo and solo i think 2 people in my team where plat 5 1 gold 5 and 1 silver but still getting bronze 5 is weird with 9 wins 1 lose

LostFr0st1 votes

Now look through who you were vs. To get placed high you would have needed to either be placed vs a team with those same ranks or higher, otherwise you'd gain almost no mmr. I do think B5 is very harsh though, unless you were vs 5 bronze or low silver for most games.

Edit: nvm we found out why http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3m3sPjar-odd-placements-in-flex

Jayblaze1 votes

unranked = bronze. Maybe not bronze 5, but low bronze for sure. Also, your rank isnt determined only on wins, it takes into account your overall performance in your games. So if you won a game by getting carried, well, thats that

Aerothyl V21 votes

unranked = bronze even when ur 9-1 sorry but thats retarded af and i wasn't getting carried since i split pushed all the time took out towers inhibs etc

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