the banning is out of hand imo

Just Dodge Now··2 votes·943 views

Banning people is suuuuper out of hand anymore. I got banned for literally asking someone to stop feeding after they already fought pre game, said they would feed, trolled in lane the whole game yet i get banned for saying something like "why the fuck do you have to troll?" lol

this is unreal to me. if you cant take some trash talk then why are you playing games in the first place? you can play wow for an hour w/o being called a shit bag or a %%%got etc and guess what. not a single person complains and ppl just give it right back. thats how it should be. my main acct is lv 3 with banner and gets votes almost every game yet make a new ranked account and get banned 2 times in 2 weeks bc crybabies are mad they lose.

if you cant handle curse words, being called names, losing, getting shit on hard bc you messed up, and kids talking trash then you dont belong in the gaming world. this game is turning into a snowflake liberal hippy safe place and its some bs.

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BerylCrab3 votes

I agree with you. Crap like this is going to take all the fun out of gaming one day.

BubblyRainbows3 votes

Fact is, to play the game you sign an agreement that you will be polite, sportsmanlike, and not harass, bully or otherwise abuse other players. When you click "agree" so you can play, you are agreeing that Riot has the right to terminate your account if you break that agreement. If you don't want to agree, don't agree and don't play. But when you say "Yes, I will be polite and sportsmanlike, and if I'm not, I agree that you can terminate my account", you shouldn't be surprised when your account is terminated when you're not being polite and sportsmanlike.

I will never understand why so many people fail to realize this. You agree to it repeatedly. You have to click "Agree" every single update. It seems pretty straightforward to me.

Just Dodge Now2 votes

i agree. if someone says kill yourself or something like that or something racist or says something that is completely out of line then they should be in some sort of trouble. my problem is that i get banned for saying things like this....

Just Dodge Now: report lee afk Just Dodge Now: i forgot how trash this community is lol literally make this game not worth playing like 75% of the time. cant get a normal ass game to save your soul.

yes i said some things like lee why do you keep going in like and idiot... guess what tho? he was. what am i supposed to do? sit in a 40 min game thats a 4v5 and be all happy when its happend 4 of last 6 games? lol nobody on earth could be happy about that.

the community is shit and the way to fix it isnt to patrol it more heavily its to let the problem sort itself out or take chat out of the game. if you want to talk get on voice or ping.

BubblyRainbows2 votes

I am definitely not trying to start an argument over whether "hurt feelings" should be a bannable offense or not, so please take the following as pure INFORMATION, not an attack. Please.

1: threatening to report, or asking others to report a player is considered bullying and is a punishable offense if the log ends up being reviewed because someone filed a report (but usually not all by itself in my experience, there usually needs to be other negative comments as well). 2: Consistently negative chat CAN be punishable if it is reported and is constant enough (I don't really know exactly how constant it has to be)

I am assuming if you were permabanned, then you received other punishments in the past few months. As I understand it, there's an incremental system they use (x day chat ban, y day chat ban, 14 day suspension, permaban) and they usually don't skip tiers unless you were using things deemed hate speech or were reported in MANY games over a very short time period. You have to go three months without your behavior appearing on the system's radar again to drop a tier. So if you had a 14 day ban two months ago, your next report is going to get you permabanned regardless of how severe the toxicity was.

If your chat log is generally tame, I suggest submitting an appeal and maybe the ban can be reversed. But, to be honest, the tone of your original post was somewhat aggressive, mildly rude, seemed to suggest that trash talk, profanity and the like should be allowed (the agreement I mentioned before makes it clear that it is not, whether you or I agree with Riot or not, we click agree, so it applies), and that there is something wrong with hippies or liberals. I point this out not as an attack or to start an ideological argument, but only to call your attention to the fact that the tone of your post is very negative and dismissive of others (or at least could easily be received that way), so if you do appeal, look at the chat logs they sent you as evidence and truly consider whether other people might consider them overwhelmingly negative. If you feel they aren't bad, appeal. I have seen a manual review overturn these things on rare occasions.

dnsup1 votes

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I am definitely not trying to start an argument over whether "hurt feelings" should be a bannable offense or not, so please take the following as pure INFORMATION, not an attack. Please.

If your chat log is generally tame, I suggest submitting an appeal and maybe the ban can be reversed. But, to be honest, the tone of your original post was somewhat aggressive, mildly rude, seemed to suggest that trash talk, profanity and the like should be allowed (the agreement I mentioned before makes it clear that it is not, whether you or I agree with Riot or not, we click agree, so it applies), and that there is something wrong with hippies or liberals. I point this out not as an attack or to start an ideological argument, but only to call your attention to the fact that the tone of your post is very negative and dismissive of others (or at least could easily be received that way), so if you do appeal, look at the chat logs they sent you as evidence and truly consider whether other people might consider them overwhelmingly negative.

This is my take-away from this talk with OP. OP, please go ahead and submit an appeal (or post chat logs, screenshots, or otherwise find some way to give the arbitrators of the community some reason to believe you engaged in good faith within the confines of the various user agreements). But please recognize that your actual arguments here--the Boards, your last resort--indicate that you think of this as some kind of ideological battle you're fighting. It's really not.

dnsup2 votes

Exactly. OP complains that they're not allowed to say whatever they want to whomever they want, yet they've repeatedly agreed to take specific steps not to create some kind of environment where other players' emotional needs are exploited for their own enjoyment. OP sounds like someone who would like to have their cake and eat it too.

As they say in another comment:

just got on main acct and had 2 key frags for sportsman like lolol yet new acct banned for next to nothing... oh looks its snowing again... all the snowflakes

The mere fact they think this has something to do with "snowflakes" suggests to me that if Lyte were still doing his thing, we'd have some worthwhile chat logs to look at right now.

gabetheguy2 votes

post chat logs. if it's legit, then that's fucked up.

ReySolomon1 votes

There is a way to say things but people don't like hearing that.

Just Dodge Now1 votes

just realized that its a perm ban too! LOLOLOL most unbelieveable thing ive ever seen in my life. this is literally the problem with the US in general right now. bunch of young kids taht cant take getting their feelings hurt and wants everything handed to them on a silver platter. life isnt fair, people are ass holes, and people will always push you down given the chance. get used to it imo. this banning shit tho seems completely unfair. if you say stop being an ass hole plz and im in a group of people i can say lets all report and gg thats a ban. i had a kid afk after feeding 6 kills a few days ago and i said something like fuck that what a waste of time all over him getting butthurt... boom ban... what... HES THE ONE THAT FUCKING AFK'D AND RUINED THE FUCKING GAME TO START WITH RITO!!! ARE YOU SHITTING ME FFS!?!?!?!?!?

so depressing that people are so easily butthurt about things that make no difference. meanwhile i didnt do anything more than say fuck and i get a prema ban and lose $50. fuck that. alot.

ReySolomon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Just Dodge Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KUkVqJh,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T01:57:00.684+0000)

just realized that its a perm ban too! LOLOLOL most unbelieveable thing ive ever seen in my life. this is literally the problem with the US in general right now. bunch of young kids taht cant take getting their feelings hurt and wants everything handed to them on a silver platter. life isnt fair, people are ass holes, and people will always push you down given the chance. get used to it imo. this banning shit tho seems completely unfair. if you say stop being an ass hole plz and im in a group of people i can say lets all report and gg thats a ban. i had a kid afk after feeding 6 kills a few days ago and i said something like fuck that what a waste of time all over him getting butthurt... boom ban... what... HES THE ONE THAT FUCKING AFK'D AND RUINED THE FUCKING GAME TO START WITH RITO!!! ARE YOU SHITTING ME FFS!?!?!?!?!?

so depressing that people are so easily butthurt about things that make no difference. meanwhile i didnt do anything more than say fuck and i get a prema ban and lose $50. fuck that. alot.

Yeah, that's why I don't say anything lawl.

dnsup1 votes

Usually people who get banned deserve it. Maybe you can get someone to come into this thread and provide the chat logs that show where you went toxic and why you shouldn't do it again. Otherwise we're stuck guessing (and history isn't on your side).


Edit: It's pretty clear from your post that you need an attitude adjustment. Maybe some time away from the game will give you a minute to reflect on how your values are a failure to human progress. Here's a great example of where you've chosen to reject humanism in favor of your preconceptions:

[{quoted}](name=Just Dodge Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KUkVqJh,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-08-10T01:42:46.570+0000)

you dont belong in the gaming world. this game is turning into a snowflake liberal hippy safe place and its some bs.

Just Dodge Now2 votes

first of all, i didnt deserve there. period. im not a toxic ass hole. as i have said, my main account gets keys for capsules every time i log on. my beef is with how little you actually have to do or say to get reported and a few reports means insta ban. second of all, my post is the way it is b/c i just had $50 and my new account taken from me over a game that i did fine in and had other team members feed then afk. yet when i say something a line has been crossed. third of all, ill assume that even 40% of the people reading this know what humanism even means without having to google it. that being said that term is exactly what i mean. people like im talking about will say the same shit. i said liberals and snowflake and therefor im a bad person and need to be banned for the safety of all snowflakes NA. that term, "humanism", literally has no concrete meaning. it changes shapes and people morph it into whatever they want it to mean to portray the person they are debating as a bad or mean person.

my point is clear. i have friends that have been muted and banned for things i wouldnt have thought twice about and things that i see almost every game im in. the difference is i dont wear my feelings on my sleeve and cry when someone brushes against them ever so slightly. grow some thick skin.

dnsup1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Just Dodge Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0KUkVqJh,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-08-10T02:06:37.151+0000)

first of all, i didnt deserve there. period. im not a toxic ass hole.

OP says otherwise.

Just Dodge Now1 votes

just got on main acct and had 2 key frags for sportsman like lolol yet new acct banned for next to nothing... oh looks its snowing again... all the snowflakes

Xion The XIV1 votes

I'm waiting for the time when Asking someone to use their ward to guard Blue/Red buff will get you banned for being toxic.

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