due to the amount of broken champs...
Lucian, Jax, Yi, Tris, Yasuo, Fizz, Akali, blitz, zed... To name a few
Why is everyone saying I'm horrible? I know how to deal with all of these champs. IT'S MY TEAMMATES WHO FEED THEM!!! That's why I need more bans to keep my teammates from feeding these champs and to keep my teammates from feeding as these champs.
DaCush8 votesJax? Zed? Edit: Although I do agree we need more bans with the size of the champ pool now
NA Darklarik2 votesJax? Zed? Edit: Although I do agree we need more bans with the size of the champ pool now
Jax no longer, but Zed... oh yah.
My duo partner recently started using Sword of the Divine on him for mid game, and holy crap, does it synergise with his ult.
Direwolfiez4 votesIf he ults in, Exhaust him and he's fucked. CC him the second he's exhausted.
Direwolfiez2 votesSeriously, another downvote? What is it with you people? That's what the pros do.
SelflessTeammate1 votesNo, they don't. Ease up your language and you might start to sound "pro", whatever that means to you. I'm assuming that was the reason for your downvote, as you're correct: Exhaust is the simple answer to Zed, as well as a lot of other champs currently considered "op". I'm amazed people are still using Ignite at this point for offense, given how little damage it does compared to a well-timed Exhaust, which can ruin even the strongest champs if everyone unloads as soon as it's triggered.
wolfax1 votesWhat does more bans accomplish? Nothing besides 2 more will become permaban status. Bans are meant so you can counter the champion(s) that counter a specific comp you're trying to make, not because the majority of the community decide something's broken so no one ever gets to play that champ. It's also based way too much off what pros pick.
FF12244 votesI'm a D5 player, not top tier but I'm getting there.
Lucian, ban worthy but not permaban Jax, no Yi, no Trist, permaban worthy Yasuo, ban worthy but not permaban Fizz, ban worthy but not permaban Akali, no Blitz, no Zed, no
Obviosuly you just need to learn how to deal with the majority of those champions and play around them
We Are Eternal1 votesI'm a D5 player, not top tier but I'm getting there.
Lucian, ban worthy but not permaban Jax, no Yi, no Trist, permaban worthy Yasuo, ban worthy but not permaban Fizz, ban worthy but not permaban Akali, no Blitz, no Zed, no
Obviosuly you just need to learn how to deal with the majority of those champions and play around them
Don't tell me, tell my team that always feeds zed, alkali, fizz, max, and yi. And tell me team not to eat every blitz pull. I do know how to play around champs, but my team doesn't and intuitionally feeds these champs OR they pick these champs and then feed. Enemy gets the good fizz, I get the 0/4 fizz etc...
AnomalousChimera2 votesIf your teammates constantly get pulled by Blitzcrank and feed in general, then you're either playing normals or you're playing somewhere in the Bronze division.
egoSniper1 votesYeah, if only that were true.
I repeatedly watched people feed mediocre Blitzcrank players all the way up to Gold. I imagine they would still do it in Gold too, but I stopped playing ranked so I don't know for sure.
In any case, if you could count on your teams for anything, at all, ever... well, I wouldn't have torn half my hair out getting to Gold like I did. And it would have taken me 1/3rd of the games that it did.
AnomalousChimera1 votesEven after Trist's recent nerf? I don't think anything is worthy of permaban status right now. But then again, I'm still rather new and have yet to reach level 30.
Direwolfiez2 votesI'd say Yasuo is permaban worthy, if you mid is ranged he's gonna screw them over and crit them to death the second they do. His Wind Wall blocks AAs, FFS.
Direwolfiez1 votesThanks for the downvote. I mean, I'm just stating my opinion, that's obviously such a horrible thing.
egoSniper1 votesPersonally, as a mid main I haven't lost lane to a Yasuo in ages. Not since week 2 of his release, I'd estimate. And he's only been nerfed since then.
Granted, I'm only in Gold, but I almost enjoy leaving him open just so I can tear him a new one with Anivia... or Sona (lol).
Direwolfiez1 votesI mostly play champs like Lux and Ezreal, so...yeah. He craps all over them both, and I've grown to loathe him with a passion.
Junkο1 votesLux and Ezreal shit all over Yasuo.
Yasuo's Wind Wall is on such a high cooldown early you can bombard him with spells 5-6 times before it finally comes off cooldown. Also his Wind Wall can't even block Lux's ult, which is on a pretty short cooldown once she gets CDR and she can just poke him with it.
Super Kami Kai1 votesFizz is too permaban worthy... seriously?
FF12241 votesFizz is too permaban worthy... seriously?
No he isn't.
All you have to do is farm from a safe and poke when applicable.
Fizz is one of the easiest champions to beat in lane if you counterpicked him.
CNY100002 votesI might agree 5 bans but the list of broken champions u suggest is ridiculous.
Splougy2 votes3 is fine. Everyone has counters, rather than suggesting more bans, perchance you can either
Learn these "broken" champs
Learn to Deal wit these champs with counter tricks and the like.
Coordinate better with your team (This is a team game after all)
We Are Eternal1 votes3 is fine. Everyone has counters, rather than suggesting more bans, perchance you can either
Learn these "broken" champs
Learn to Deal wit these champs with counter tricks and the like.
Coordinate better with your team (This is a team game after all)
I know how to deal with them, I ban them so my team doesn't feed them or feed with them... It's my teammates who don't ban fizz, and then pick a champ that fizz counters into the enemy first pick fizz. It doesn't matter what I tell my team, they will troll, feed, ark, etc.
Splougy1 votes3 is fine. Everyone has counters, rather than suggesting more bans, perchance you can either
Learn these "broken" champs
Learn to Deal wit these champs with counter tricks and the like.
Coordinate better with your team (This is a team game after all)
I know how to deal with them, I ban them so my team doesn't feed them or feed with them... It's my teammates who don't ban fizz, and then pick a champ that fizz counters into the enemy first pick fizz. It doesn't matter what I tell my team, they will troll, feed, ark, etc.
Than 3 is your option, your team needs to work together.
If, for example, you are jungling and see your idiot mid feeding Fizz like he's waiting for a UN recruiter to see him and recruit him to the peace core to help feed poor Africans than you should work with him and motivate him by brushing his/her ego off and trying harder.
getdunkedonalive1 votesIn what universe do you play in?
ZJnTbuxsKX2 votesIn what universe do you play in?
He plays in silver 3. Explains a great deal about his ego and all-knowing persona when it comes to the game. "I deserve to be challenger, but my team is challenged."
We Are Eternal1 votesIn what universe do you play in?
He plays in silver 3. Explains a great deal about his ego and all-knowing persona when it comes to the game. "I deserve to be challenger, but my team is challenged."
No, I deserve Gold at least. I've been plagued with 150-300 to fucking 500 and 1200 ping lag spikes during fights for the past week of me playing ranked... Guess what.. I still dominate 70-80% of games with this severe disadvantage. I do however also get feeders in about 70-80% of my games. It is and has always been my team because I have a bad game in what 2/10 games whereas my teammates have bad games in 8/10 games... I dare Riot to give me 20 ping and see what the fuck happens to my rank. Make the playing field fair and then see what happens.
Ben692 votesWe don't need 5 but 4 would be perfect I think. With the large number of champions in the game I think 4 each is justified but 5 is overkill.
SelflessTeammate1 votesPentaban? Nah. Way overkill. The only one I agree definitely needs some sort of fix is Blitz's insane early-game superiority due to the fixed speed of his Rocket Fist, which is especially problematic when everyone's using base movement speed. Some champions that are especially slow often have a really hard time against him due to the speed of that fist, as well as the lack of casting time.
His pulling+bursting ability on a bottom lane is almost guaranteed death for whoever gets caught by it, and that fist of his moves in fast. Maybe a little too fast. At least Thresh has kind of a wind-up first so you can see it coming, Blitz's has little to no casting time, and he can follow it up instantly with a big stun while any carry finishes off what he started. Players that can target it well are nightmarish no matter how quick you might be at dodging it.
He's not terrible mid or late game unless he's been fed beyond reason, but early game, especially when no one has movement speed boosts, he's too effective.
Maybe scale the speed of his rocket fist a little to make early game a little more fair, until people have more reliable ways of dodging it.
KzooCrasher1 votes5 bans each? So one team bans Jinx Draven Trust Cork Ezreal the other team bans Kogmaw Cait Sivir Graves Lucian.... and that is why it is staying at 3 bans until you can't essentially ban out an entire role they need to keep the bans low.....
Super Kami Kai1 votesand? have you not sent double bruisers bot? it's fucking op/.
Pinker 101 votesand? have you not sent double bruisers bot? it's fucking op/.
Roflmao
Three hours later: seriously doe whenever i ban i ban trist and morg and then sit there like.... what do i ban now.. so i guess disagree
KzooCrasher2 votesI play a lot of lux mid so I ban fizz/yasuo and always ban eve because ward immunity is annoying
Yandere Carry1 votesBan lucian over trist holy crap he is ridiculous and not being nerfed.
Ratbert1 votesRip
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Yeah but it'd leave a lot more options than adc and supp bot, which is nice and besides, it forces people to play "unfavourable" champs rather than FOTM every single game.
wolfax1 votesIt doesn't solve the issue though. It can force out an entire class, and there's no upside. Bans are meant to be for banning a champ or champs that stop a specific comp you're trying to make, not to ban whoever the community deems FotM.
We Are Eternal1 votesIt doesn't solve the issue though. It can force out an entire class, and there's no upside. Bans are meant to be for banning a champ or champs that stop a specific comp you're trying to make, not to ban whoever the community deems FotM.
Then leave the pro LCS game sour of this. Not a damn person in ranked communicates with their team about team comp during champ select so your argument makes no sense. No one is going to ban an entire class. Someone mentioned banning all arc's but didn't mention quinn or Urgot so argument debunked already...
wolfax1 votesUrgot's not an ADC as has been nerfed because he dominated the lane too much. He's an anti ADC. Quinn has also become a top lane ranged champion and hasn't been seen in the bot lane forever. So... 2 champions that are not even real ADCs are going to take over for the class?
The point of bans is not to just let you ban everyone you don't like. They're meant to be strategic and as you stated they already aren't, so what's the use of adding more?
Ratbert1 votesThey are strategic as they lock out those who are stronger than the rest. Generally, strong champs can stop a variety of comps. It's still a strategy to block out a class. You need more bans as there are more strong champions.
We Are Eternal1 votes5 bans each? So one team bans Jinx Draven Trust Cork Ezreal the other team bans Kogmaw Cait Sivir Graves Lucian.... and that is why it is staying at 3 bans until you can't essentially ban out an entire role they need to keep the bans low.....
I doubt that would happen. In fact I know it wouldn't happen unless it was maybe bronze 5, but no one cares about that division. Graves, Sivir, Corkii, jinx and driven aren't priority bans. Refer to my list for the ones to ban.
We Are Eternal1 votes5 bans each? So one team bans Jinx Draven Trust Cork Ezreal the other team bans Kogmaw Cait Sivir Graves Lucian.... and that is why it is staying at 3 bans until you can't essentially ban out an entire role they need to keep the bans low.....
What I should have said is. Urgot/Quinn next argument please because you just got DEBUNKED KID!!!
KzooCrasher1 votesI said essentially not completely banning out a role so you debunked nothing.... the point is you can ESSENTIALLY ban out an entire role which would be horrible for who ever is stuck in that role
We Are Eternal1 votesI said essentially not completely banning out a role so you debunked nothing.... the point is you can ESSENTIALLY ban out an entire role which would be horrible for who ever is stuck in that role
Thats a viable strategy though.
KzooCrasher1 votesExactly its a viable strategy with 3 bans 5 would turn it into a toxic strategy
DaCush1 votesI think you and everyone else is looking at the wrong reason for more bans. 3 bans were made to counter back when we had half the champs. The reasoning we should have more bans is cause we have over twice the champ pool than when we started having 3 bans so I do feel it should be increased. I'd like 5 but I'd settle for 4.
wolfax1 votesWhat issue does it solve? The point of bans is to give you strategic options when you pick champions, not to make sure X% of the champion pool is banned at any given point. People already don't use bans strategically though and just ban whatever the pros play. You could honestly delete bans for the vast majority of the playerbase without it having strategic significance.
Madra1 votesI wouldn't mind an increase to four bans. Four bans could help increase champion diversity on the professional stage, as well. Leaping to five bans seems like it would be too much of an increase. Spending worlds watching Alistar soaking up bans because he could punch and headbutt at the same time makes me think that whatever build they chose to use for worlds wasn't the best choice. It doesn't seem like many of the pros have very deep champion pools, though, so I am pretty sure they are worried about what happens when Amumu and Sejuani end up jungling.
SionideCN1 votesOkay so, as a Silver 4 player here's my list of permaban champions
Tristana
And here's my list of banworthy champs
Lucian Akali (because no one in silver buys pinks) Yasuo (cause he's strong, maybe not after the nerf) Syndra (solo carry champ, shuts down an entire person on your team then keeps doing aoe damage when fed) Any new champ in ranked (cause who wants to deal with people first timing champs in ranked)
And thats it, maybe irelia or ryze depending on what I plan to pick. Maokai still sometimes if I feel like it but aside from that there aren't that many banworthy champs
Remember when Renekton and Kassadin were near guaranteed bans each game?
Sojs1 voteslol
Junkο1 votesJax,Yi,Blitz,Akali,Zed
how bad at this game are you? The only reasonable out of these to ban i guess is Jax, cause late game he is a monster, but others are so easily shut down it's not even funny.
Yi - counterjungle him, cc him late game Blitz - Ward and learn to dodge Akali - Her pre 6 is pathetic and if you ward and say ss, she will be useless Zed - 3 items in the game counter him (GA, Mercurial and Zhonya, so no excuse for not being able to build it), and about 50% of the ults in the game (And some none ults even)
I do agree we need more bans, but not for the champs you mentioned
We Are Eternal1 votesJax,Yi,Blitz,Akali,Zed
how bad at this game are you? The only reasonable out of these to ban i guess is Jax, cause late game he is a monster, but others are so easily shut down it's not even funny.
Yi - counterjungle him, cc him late game Blitz - Ward and learn to dodge Akali - Her pre 6 is pathetic and if you ward and say ss, she will be useless Zed - 3 items in the game counter him (GA, Mercurial and Zhonya, so no excuse for not being able to build it), and about 50% of the ults in the game (And some none ults even)
I do agree we need more bans, but not for the champs you mentioned
What makes you and everyone else assume it's me and not my team that is feeding these champs. I know who to deal with them, what I can't deal with is riots shitty server's giving me the biggest disadvantage in game with 300+ ping, my teammates feeding carry lanes when I'm support, and giving me the idiots who don't ban Fizz and then pick the champ that fizz destroys...
Pixelated Rabbit1 votesout of that list trist is the only one really worthy and luci, the rest....not sure if you know what mr is or how blitz falls completely off late game or any common knowledge but yeah you mean we only need 2 bans