So... does nobody else have a problem with how much damage Ryze's basic kit does now?

Asian Dwight·7/16/2016, 8:02:28 AM·32 votes·3,047 views

It's like Riot incorporated all the damage from the ultimate into his basic kit. And that auto-snare range... good lord.

72 Comments

jazzerbone907/16/2016, 8:06:13 AM9 votes

the new ryze is pretty well balanced and designed. no qualms for once in my league life.

Theorchero7/16/2016, 8:13:46 AM5 votes

Yeah I played him in the rotating queue for one game and once I had the barest combo down, he deals disgusting damage. Like DISGUSTING damage. I've literally gotten shields while bursting an ekko 100-0 faster than they could ulti while I had 0 hp. I killed him before he could even dash to me because QWQEQ melts him massively.

USG Failsawce7/16/2016, 4:20:46 PM4 votes

His damage is flat out unreal right now. It's not even funny how stupidly insane it is for a "late game hypercarry" who can now ALSO early game bully super hard...

And even if you accept the fact that he can do all of that... his damage, wave clear, and team fight capability are all still ridiculous.

Succubús GF7/16/2016, 8:11:53 AM4 votes

Play syndra and you wont ever lose to a ryze

WoonStruck7/17/2016, 12:17:57 AM3 votes

The only reason people think Ryze is strong is because they're idiots that still go glass cannon.

Nearly any AP grabs at least a negatron even if they want to focus on damage. Get your Morello's after.

Abyssal, Rylai's, RoA, etc are pretty standard items on the majority of consistent mid-laners now, even if you're just grabbing one of them.

BakedLotion7/16/2016, 11:51:03 PM3 votes

Ryze lost damage. I don't know what you're talking about. It's impossible to 100-0 people at level 4 now. I used to be able to 100-0 people at level 3 pre rework. lol.

Darkslayer857/16/2016, 4:23:12 PM2 votes

At least he takes skill now.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

PhDs Nuts7/16/2016, 5:09:45 PM2 votes

I got chunked from 100-30 as Malphite by Ryze at level 5. It was pretty frustrating.

La Barbotte7/16/2016, 5:42:53 PM2 votes

i think its fair, i laned vs a skarner (hes tanky and has a shield) but sadly for him at lvl 3 i one shot him, gotta love ''late game hyper carries''

SleepyWolfie7/16/2016, 5:44:37 PM2 votes

Id remove the Q speed, I think Ryze could be considered a "Bruiser" mage, he has to get into the thick of stuff to deal damage. His range is medium-low, and that shield and move speed from Q really make him strong since he can get in, kill someone and then get away with the shield and mspeed.

Dragnamous7/16/2016, 6:52:26 PM2 votes

I got an S- rank with the new Ryze in my first game. Oh, and I was jungling.

Guy Fox Teemo7/16/2016, 9:23:11 PM2 votes

I don't really have a problem with it. He's low range pretty higher skill floor (At least in higher elos). Requires a lot of comboing in the right order (You can do like 7 seven abilitys in one rotation if you're REALLY good).

His ult is also a bit of noob trap; Where honestly I can't get it right 99% of the time.

He does a lot of damage (A bit over tuned), but in reality thats what he's always done; He just does a bit more now since he can't perma root you anymore.

Arthimetes7/16/2016, 11:44:57 PM2 votes

I have a problem with how much damage EVERYONE does now.

Ralanr7/16/2016, 5:06:12 PM2 votes

His damage is pretty insane if you can land the combo.

I just suck at him because a full AP Sona can burst me down faster. Probably because I don't build MR items right away.

Totalwanabe7/16/2016, 8:18:25 AM1 votes

ryze is more suited has a support with that rework, still can do mild to wild burst depending on how good you are at performing combo. he still struggle to catch up but the stun combo make it so that they can't run until you make them go take a swim at the fountain.