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Ryze wasn't really Nerfed and He should be disabled at worlds.

kafooey·10/27/2015, 7:29:40 AM·2 votes·1,037 views
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Clip1 is faker on Ryze, getting off 3 snares and around 3 q's with no CDR items. To me this shows his ult should not grant CDR, because in conjunction with his passive, it makes his abilities have TOO LOW cooldowns. By just a little bit, if the cdr was cut by somewhere inbetween 10-20% it would allow a reasonable amount of counterplay, instead of having a lee sin be unable to ward hop away. In the Na.Match history link, it's me sitting at plat 2 solo que mmr losing to a gold 1 ryze. My team was full of plat players, so do you really think that a gold 1 player should just stomp us all like that? From Gold 1 to plat 2 is about 300 elo difference. I'll be honest, I've played against players way better than this guy. The fact that there was no room to outplay the 3 snares he can do within 3 seconds infuriates me beyond belief. I play this game to outplay people. Not lose because he has a champion that can make you stand still and die. You can look at the rest of my match history and I've never lost lane so bad to anyone that was from 2-4 divisions higher than this guy was. You can also see I killed him in lane, and teleported back to lane with Sheen and Ruby crystal. He had a tear and mana crystal. He was still able to beat me 1v1, even when I had Sheen (One of the strongest dueling items in the game especially early on) The only thing was, when I'm snared I can't auto attack! And he just snares me exactly like he did to lee sin and diana in the next two clips! I had flat MR glyphs and flat health seals. I knew the matchup. I just didn't know that at level 6 I can not go near Ryze because I will get perma-snared and not be able to even get 1 auto attack off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFjBgRZkRMc 22:52. This is the exact combo he does. R W Q E Q W Q E Q W. So essentially he can get off 9 spells in under 3 seconds. That is So obviously not fucking balanced. The last clip is Dyrus playing ryze with a joke to the title of the video. Because he showed you can still practically perma snare with Ryze, even without orbwalking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N1wcr-j48I At this point, Dyrus didn't even have a completed ROA, or Catalyst even, and Diana had a NEGATRON and if was a good player running MR glyphs like I was, thats like 60 MR before ryze even has a complete item. Just a lot of mana from accessories. (Tear is an accessory item)

I honestly think he should be disabled at worlds because of the fact that he doesn't have to build any CDR items to cast 9 spells in under 3 seconds. That is a change from the old Ryze because CDR was core in his build path but now it isn't. This means that you can build all damage items on Ryze and easily get away winning a 1v1 against any player in the game if you just follow the combo that Dyrus, Faker, and the Gold 1 player used against me. It's called competitive integrity and if this champion named Ryze has very little room to outplay once he hits level 6, then that's not balanced!

9 Comments

Earl Eulrich10/27/2015, 4:05:22 PM2 votes

Ryze is currently mostly about the mechanical needs of the character and just how much power a player gains from properly executing his passive combos, which means that he looks very weak for our average player, but is secretly one of the highest winrate characters for experienced players.

just to quote SmashGizmo from the Q&A (http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/URqfELUH-balance-team-qa-2-ask-us-anything-again?comment=001e0000)

so yea, Riot knows Ryze is actually broken (as does Faker)

ElegantDoge10/27/2015, 10:09:02 AM1 votes

I don't know if you're trolling or being serious.

i'm scared.

kafooey10/27/2015, 3:46:47 PM1 votes

Dude It's honestly really sad that you can't tell if I'm being serious. I show that Ryze can cast 9 spells within 3 seconds as soon as he hits level 6 and you think that it's balanced? 9 spells! 3 Seconds! No CDR items! Before, Ryze used to have a drawback of having to build CDR as part of his gameplay. Now with the CDR on his ulti you can just build pure damage and as soon as you hit levl 6 you can't be punished 1v1 by any champion in the game! So yes I'm being serious you jerk!

kafooey10/27/2015, 3:51:15 PM1 votes

God the moment people actually listen to common sense will be the moment that Ryze is disabled.

Draqone10/27/2015, 5:04:17 PM1 votes

The only problem with Ryze is that he powerspikes too early, I don't think he is really "broken" in an Azir or Thresh way.

I'd be more concerned about Veigar that has stupid scalings and a lower mechanical skill threshold.

kafooey10/27/2015, 5:08:16 PM1 votes

Well to be honest heres a list of champions that Riot changed recently that are now/were OP. Ryze, Gangplank, Mordekaiser, Fiora, Veigar, Tahm kench, Darius. So all those champions are picked by the pros or either banned away.

kafooey10/27/2015, 7:46:37 AM1 votes

Okay guys if you're going to down vote me when I have 3 sources of evidence that ryze functions in a way that is too powerful. That's fine! I mean I should feed in lane to a gold 1 ryze if im 4 divisions higher! You're right I gotchu! Dyrus even makes a joke video that I linked showing how ryze can perma snare but go ahead and downvote me I GOTCHU! Ryze is balanced you don't even need to watch Faker using 9 spells in under 3 seconds, I GOTCHU I FEEL U. Ryze is balanced you're right I GOTCHU!

TurquoiseYoshi10/27/2015, 9:43:41 PM1 votes

Most Ryzes run CDR masteries and glyphs into everything, especially against an AD lane opponent. The Ryze you played against had 10% CDR at the beginning of the game.