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Tank Meta - Why no Shen?

Natty 9K··5 votes·1,757 views

Just curious as to why no competitive teams havnt tried shen. Pros

  • Tank meta, really strong tank
  • pick potential with taunt
  • has a teleport to give split push pressure then ult the adc
  • stronger 2v1 than some current tops

To me i think it would be a time where hed fit. Maybe im crazy and just miss seeing Shen in competitive play

10 Comments

Angry Monster2 votes

Shens play is almost completely reactive. In the tank meta you want to make a play for your team. Not save your adc from a mistake.

Reactive game play is actually really weak.

IcyPepper2 votes

Er, not sure why "tank meta" automatically makes him higher priority. He's not quite the strongest jungler, and he hasn't received any huge buffs quite yet.

Gotta keep in mind why certain meta's exist (tank meta = cinderhulk + recent tank buffs). Shen didn't receive a huge upgrade quite yet. He's strong, but he's still where he was before. And having a tank for the sake of a tank because of a tank meta (and the best tanks currently are the junglers, like Volibear) is going to hurt because item 3153 item 3134 item 3035 exist.

Natty 9K1 votes

Good points. I shouldve specified that I was thinking of him being played strictly in top lane. I feel he could have some playmaking potential and for sure anythings better than these stupid kennen tops that NA plays horribly.

IcyPepper2 votes

shrugs

Just keep in mind that the meta is the effect, not the cause. A tank meta won't automatically make every tank stronger, it's the tanks becoming strong that make the tank meta.

kinglallak1 votes

What he might have meant was shen can't really do a jungle follow with the same power that maokai or hecarim can.

Trump4Reelection1 votes

Mass ult cooldown low duel potential and shit tier wave clear. Maokaoi can stop split push with no kill threat really, gnar is mobile does solid damage and is a good diver.

Shen has 1 heavily unforgiving bit of CC (to himself. Missing it means no ability to fight) that has no bonus time scale and a low burst and he has to be a secondary initiator by ulting onto someone who is diving the back lines because he cant get there himself and even if they do get back to the back lines on a carry his low damage and lack of CC mean a carry will usually live while their tanks lock down cc and crush your back line

Yandere Carry1 votes

splitpushing isn't as strong as it used to be, and splitpushing now is only that great if you deal a bit of damage and are actually a 1v1 threat. Shen is just a tank with global presence, which isn't bad... Just isn't quite what people are looking for.

Pigby1 votes

You have to think, why are the tanks that are popular now, popular?

In the jungle tanks like Zac, Amumu, Nautilus, and Sejuani are popular. And every single one of them isn't 100% reliant on cinderhulk to clear. It helps definitely, but they can clear decently without it. Shen's clear is absolute garbage until he picks up a cinderhulk.

They also have great CC abilities. Shen has his taunt, and that's it.

Shen is just underwhelming. He has a good laning phase but outside of that he falls short.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Shen doesn't really have a lot of crowd-control besides his taunting dash, comparing to the current popular tanks like Sejuani & Nautilus.

Vixanys1 votes

Shen is always a niche tank in the top, he can't split push effectively (like a Mao/Mundo can) without the items for it. He's Flash dependent on engages (most teams will not allow multiple target taunts) and items like QSS/Mekal's shut down his engage even more. Hecarim can just destroy a backline, Mao/Sion can tank for days and Rumble can split the team up.

He can't jungle quickly, without the items which delays his tanky. (Senjui/Nunu/Vi) just do it better. His clear is lackluster, his pre-6 ganks are weak. His Ult, with the delay is the only saving grace and it doesn't help him with ganking at all but gives him a great counter gank.

Shen is just mediocre in what he brings where other champions do it far better.

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