TSM Decision-making Super Questionable + Santorin Qs

Taruum·7/18/2015, 9:00:21 PM·5 votes·1,228 views

What has happened to TSM's shotcalling/decision-making? At MSI, they would make decisive calls that took risks but generally paid off. Now in the LCS, it looks like the steam has been gut-shotted out of them. They're consistently holding the trigger but rarely pull it. They're more prone to dis-engaging than actually fighting. The mechanics are there (for the most part) but hesitation does NOT create momentum. Hence the losing streak.

Also, is it me or if now relegated C9 Meteos (or pretty much any other jungler in the NA LCS) were to join TSM, I don't think they'd be losing these games. I feel like Santorin plays very impactful champions, non-impactfully. For example, the game on right now, TSM vs TiP, I have yet to see Santorin make ONE impactful play with arguably the best jungler (Gragas). Where's the clutch Cask disengages or even more lacking, engages? Due to his lack of presence overall, teams feel that they can dictate the flow/feel of the game against TSM. Perhaps a benching for Santorin would create positive change, I haven't been a fan of his play since the Spring split. Bjerg's dominance allowed TSM to feel comfortable without fixing any of the glaring issues they've had all along. Now that teams are figuring Bjerg out, TSM can no longer ignore their issues. Just my 2 cents.

18 Comments

xGarzilla7/18/2015, 9:41:02 PM4 votes

I completely agree with this. While Gragas is considered one of the top jubglers right now, Santorin seems to be very lack luster on him game after game.

They allowed Rush to get Nidalee, which imo was the DUMBEST thing they could have done knowing how well he plays him. They need to stop relying so much on Bjerg to make all the plays because teams are focusing him.

The calls to constantly pressure Impact too..... What? Cool you got the tank, but left ALL the damage dealers to farm and get stronger. Especially with Janna in the field, one ult and she nullifies Shen taunt.

I just don't know where these pick/ban decisions are coming from, their in game decisions seem very off and they just don't seem like the TSM who were steam rolling teams in the early weeks. They are not opening up to the changes with the recent patch and staying strictly super meta. Do something different.

Lugg7/18/2015, 9:12:29 PM3 votes

TSM has completely lost their "mystique". Teams in NA are no longer intimidated by them or scared of them. Their game plan is pretty simple to figure out, just don't let Wildturtle get Jinx and you are probably going to win since that makes Bjerg the only one who can carry. They way they are playing right now, they should be happy if they just make Worlds.

pE4CbxDPQO7/19/2015, 4:00:36 AM2 votes

So Santorin plays a lot Rek'Sai and it seems really lackluster, but So (and I know they are completely different animals) when I watch him stream he carries like every fucking game on Rek. I think the team style as a whole is way to reactive and not proactive enough.

Nyx born Sheep7/19/2015, 1:16:24 PM1 votes

You know... they could just bring Oddone back in and see what happens.... kappa, kappa

fapfapfap7/18/2015, 9:05:33 PM1 votes

like regi said in the tsm episode, it all stems from communication, santorin cant make any moves if no one is talking to him about plans to make them

JimmyNtheKudos7/19/2015, 3:40:45 PM1 votes

I've been saying this all split, Santorin plays way too safe. He has one of the best KDAs in NA, despite never actually making big plays.

Taruum7/18/2015, 9:27:09 PM1 votes

@Hanlin I honestly believe most of the other junglers in the league are at least level or above Santorin in skill/mechanics. Much less the elite such as Dominate/Rush/Meteos etc.

Darth Pixy Misa7/19/2015, 4:31:49 AM1 votes

That is what Regi has been saying for 2 weeks that TSM is not being proactive. But Regi and Loco seem to not know how to change this.