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TSM doesn't represent me

TNT Elf·5/15/2017, 6:40:54 AM·4 votes·817 views

Hello, Im from USA, but I moved to Europe when I was a kid. There, everyone who played LoL was saying that NA was trash, that NA was a shit region,etc... I tried to defend it as I could, but I give up. TSM looses again. I have always thought that North American solo Q is one of the bests in the world. Not only because of the playing quality, but also because there are less flammers and toxic people there than in Europe, which is reigned by french toxic feeders. I have always thought that NA was batter than EU, but not in eSports.

Unfortunately, e-Sports are not about the general quality level of a region. LoL e-Sports are about a team of 5 people that represents their region and make that region be better or worse than other region. But Im from NA, and TSM doesn't represent me. I haven't seen such a retard game decisions, such a retard macro and such an unprofessional players who get nerves every single time they play an important international game.

Hauntzer is solo killed every game, Svenskeren make the most horrible ganks I have ever seens in a professional stage. Bjergsen is the only who's not as gargabe as the rest of the team. I would be able to write a book about WT mistakes, no positioning, no poking, no kiding, being in the front lane in team fights, walking alone, and a large etc. That team doesn't represent my region, and I think these garbage players also don't represent yours. I played in European Solo Q and in NA Solo Q, and I can say that NA>EU. But in e-Sports...

They deserve to loose, they deserve to not go the knockout stage, they deserve to be a WildCard team, they deserve to even be kicked of the tournaments, because TSM has not the level to play internationally, maybe Cloud 9/CLG has it, but TSM is the team who I get more ashamed in international tournaments. NA deserves to go home, but NA doesn't deserve to be worse than EU coz those shitty monkeys don't represent us. Thanks for reading.

14 Comments

Dr Poro5/15/2017, 4:23:55 PM2 votes

Stop being so butthurt. TSM won the spring split so they get the right to represent NA. Are they the best team? Probably not, since C9 has historically done better. But the same goes for G2 and H2K in Europe. G2 and TSM are just teams that focus on the splits and then fuck up internationally. That's sad, yes, but you can't say that they don't represent your region. That's just some butthurt talk that reminds me of 'not my president' crying. The results are what they are. Deal with it. If you don't like it, do something about it so that it doesn't happen in the future or learn to live with it.

Yes, you can be dissapointed in your region's top team but I hate it when people try to join the glory of their region until they lose and then step aside saying they have nothing to do with it. Either you say that you feel more European and that you root for them, or just acknowledge that the NA are underperforming (imo EU is also underperforming). I'm also dissapointed that TSM lost vs FW. I like to have as many western teams go through as possible. With 4 Asian teams, I think we should stop fighting between NA and EU (except for sportsmanship).

Obviously esports doesn't represent how the ladder is. I couldn't say what NA is like, but if I had good ping on there, I'd probably also play over there because people are more likely to speak decent English (which is actually less of a problem in LoL than most other online games in Europe).

Oh, one more thing: Lose is with one o. It kind of triggers me. ;)

Kal Vas Flam5/15/2017, 4:35:05 PM2 votes

The NA macro game is garbage. This isn't just a TSM problem, it's a region problem. TSM's macro was one of the best we had and it's still not any better than wildcard team strats.

III BAKURYU III 5/15/2017, 9:34:42 AM2 votes

Yeah, TSM F-Up again......... but if I'm complaining or talking shitt or even mentioning them it kinda means I still watch them even tho it's been like 7 years and when ever I see people say " I"v been the biggest NA/TSM fan for YEARS but not anymore) it's like ok.... good for you. No one cares!

I personally say some things here, talk shiit here but at the end of the day I still wish NA luck and stay behind them because the fuck am I suppose to do from NA not cheer for them whenever they need it most but talk shit whenever they fail ?
Waste of time that is if I"m still going to comment about them, yeah NA/TSM SUCKS A$$$$ and we've never been that good in E-Sports( League) it's the ultimate underdog story but maybe this one won't have a happy fairy tale ending and it's not black or white that gives you answers but instead may never come true at the end. NO payoff is the short answer.

You don't want to represent this region as far as League/NA goes that's fine, no one wants you to represent them if you don't want to and no one is making you watch, care, appreciate and cheer for NA ( The Ultimate underdog) .

NGNL Asian5/15/2017, 9:01:45 PM1 votes

tbh. It's the mentality of na solo q

GeminiRune5/15/2017, 11:23:50 AM1 votes

The differences with TSM compared to the rest of the teams in NA is that they're believed to succeed only to fail anyway. If you were a diehard NA fan for this event, you'd feel as if you threw all your chips into the TSM pool in hope that CLG's benefits wouldn't go to waste. I can't help but to think about that part in the Abe Lincoln "Whitest Kids You Know" video where he's just shouting "Now you F'd up!"

A part of me feels like TSM just reestablished the NA scene as international jokers which seems to be the case that always happens when they don't payout the fans who invest time into them. But why? Why is it that with League eSports specifically that there is such selfish head hunting the moment success doesn't come? It's like being a TSM fan gives you a dark light because of the amount of bandwagoners there are forming an ocean waiting to cast that tsunami of failure onto their org. You don't really get that anywhere else as hard as this game.

I find it easier to represent the competition of the game more than a region or even a team/player. Gives you less headaches and more rounded free spirits to what could happen (like this entire MSI).

nGio5/15/2017, 9:07:33 AM1 votes

I only upvoted because you mentioned 'the toxic French'.

MrHaZeYo5/15/2017, 6:56:16 AM1 votes

Lol keep reminding them how their precious G2 is 1-5 vs Na teams.

Pound for Pound the NA teams are better then the EU teams, but our teams have a lot of imports so people take it as we suck overall as a region. We just live in a world where the NFL, NBA, and NHL all feature players from North America and other countries as well so to us having imports doesn't seem like a huge thing.

To be fair though our top 2 mid laners are both EU born (Bjerg/Jensen) while the 3rd is Korean (Ryu)