#6 - Froggen

Riot·Sep 15, 2014·1 votes·62,432 views

As part of our Countdown to Worlds, we celebrate the Top 20 players of the World Championship.

#6 - Froggen

Team - Alliance Region - Europe Position - Mid Signature Champions

Froggen and his handpicked Alliance squad came out swinging in the 2014 EU LCS Summer Split, managing to sit pretty at the top of the standings all split. Thanks to his excellent leadership and top-notch mechanics, the veteran mid laner was able to dominate throughout the regular season and eventually go on to become the MVP of the EU LCS Summer Playoffs. Known in large part for his famous Anivia play, Froggen keeps games interesting with his unorthodox strategies, deep champion pool, and unique builds. His innovative play led him to the top of the KDA charts for three LCS splits in a row, and his dedication to League is encouraging even to other top tier pro players. After failing to make it to Worlds last year, Froggen seems more determined than ever to lead his team to an amazing showing at this year's Championship, and to prove himself on an international level. Check out the other players on the list! Who do you think is #5 on our list of the 20 greatest players at #Worlds? Tweet @lolesports or comment below to let us know!

46 Comments

KarickSep 15, 201422 votes

Incoming massive outrage (OUTRAGE!) that <put any NA or EU player here> is higher than <put any Korean or Chinese player here>.

FreeZamadomix1Sep 18, 20142 votes

Thank you for posting this

FG RushingHourSep 15, 201417 votes

Froggen is the biggest mastermind of the Western World, I know he is no Korean, but he is a legend, quit bitching.

Shen DaddySep 15, 201415 votes

Yes I've read the guidelines and know his importance to his team. But 6? really you guys have to think that's a bt high no?

Raid Boss NidSep 15, 201429 votes

Why not? Mvp EU, his team finished first in EU also. Froggen is so good at understanding the game and mechanicly I don't understand why people still think hes overated. Anyways we all have an opinion I guess :) Sorry about that english ( Not a EU fan boy though, i'm from NA )

0neSh0tGGSep 15, 201413 votes

You sir deserve a cookie. You are totaly right about Froggen. People think he isn't that guy that owned S2 anymore but he is. And you cerdaco. Would you like for Hai to get first place? Would you be happy then?

N1ghtmarezSep 15, 20149 votes

No-one is saying Froggen is bad. But the list has so far overrated some western players and underrated some Koreans.

12talesSep 16, 20149 votes

I'd argue that Froggen is the one westerner that does deserve to be rated alongside the elite Koreans. I could maybe quibble about the exact order, but I do think he deserves top ten. Not only is he able to perform at a very high level, he does so with insane consistency - he never buckles under pressure, he doesn't tilt, and he does it while simultaneously leading his team.

There are maybe three mids at the tournament that could match or potentially surpass his level as a player, but to the best of my knowledge, none of them take the same directive role in their team that Froggen does in his.

Mediocre JoeSep 16, 20141 votes

I am not sure how I feel about sneaky making the list I am glad bjergsen made it in but maybe 10 was a bit too high. I think dandy should have been top 2 and deft should have been a lot higher than he is. They definitely underrated some koreans. I honestly think they overrated a lot of chinese players.

All StarGGSep 16, 20144 votes

I think people over analyze Korea it's not the location why they are so good it's the amount of time they put in and no one argues among the EUWLCS that Froggen puts the most time in playing this game. That why he plays like he does and now he has a team around him that can compete I think people will be shocked at what Alliance and Froggen can do this season.

CT GanziSep 17, 20142 votes

EUW user with no bias lol

GenisysArcSep 17, 20142 votes

"I'd argue that Froggen is the one westerner that does deserve to be rated alongside the elite Koreans. I could maybe quibble about the exact order, but I do think he deserves top ten. Not only is he able to perform at a very high level, he does so with insane consistency - he never buckles under pressure, he doesn't tilt, and he does it while simultaneously leading his team. There are maybe three mids at the tournament that could match or potentially surpass his level as a player, but to the best of my knowledge, none of them take the same directive role in their team that Froggen does in his." *cough Faker *cough

PieRulerSep 18, 20141 votes

Koreans have said he's the real deal.

Shen DaddySep 17, 20141 votes

I feel like hai is the one of the weakest top tier NA players--this of course excludes hi brilliant shotcalling which makes up for most things. but yeah no

Shen DaddySep 17, 20141 votes

I know this but I feel like 6 is still a tad high for him. For example this list will not have either pawn or cool. Both players who are equal or better than him mechanically and in knowledge of the game. Both players that their team sinks or swims with. You could argue that Cool has clearlove for some shotcalling. I probably should have said he should be 8-11. Everyone above him has support for the best in the world argument and he's iiiiiiiiincredibly consistent arguably most consistent in the world but my issue is outplay potential and shotcalling. But at 6 he's being placed at arguably the best in the world which I have trouble with. His aggression negation is incredible but he loses than due to the fact he rarely roams which will be huge considering the hyper-aggressive teams will work around that and 4v2 their bot lanes or 3v1 their top lane. My biggest issue is that they didn't think carefully about snubs. Bjergsen, despite being my favorite non-faker mid got an extra 2-3 points for hype factor, Loveling was waaay high--debatably on the list, sneaky shouldn't have made it, winds, pawn, fzzf, looper, and one of [westdoor, acorn and heart] should be here. It's not a knock on froggen but the list as a whole

Shen DaddySep 17, 20141 votes

That being said the people I'd put ahead of him are cool, pawn, mata, dade, uzi, namei, (deft or imp). This is primarily because these are players so good we need to stop looking at what happens if they don't perform and start looking at what they perform if they perform at peak. They can boss games. Maybe I like him just a bit farther down because I never truly see him impose his will on games. shrug

WhiplashSep 15, 20145 votes

Not really, Froggen is one of the most skilled/well-respected players internationally and arguably the best player from EU. So number 6 isn't really that high.

ChampionHDSep 15, 20144 votes

Oi Relly? BRING IT ON!!! Alistar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjntugUpiSA

TarkamacskaSep 16, 20142 votes

Bjergsen will be probably befor him. Nah, THAT will be a joke. Froggens 6th place is well deserved.

TnsEagleSep 16, 201412 votes

#6 ??? really ??? he deserves to be in the top 3 get real

minecakeSep 15, 20149 votes

What a joke. The perfect spot for Froggen was clearly #8.

ArcanaNoctisSep 15, 20148 votes

If by that you imply he should be equal with Rekkles, don't make me laugh.

Darth JamalSep 15, 20143 votes

rekkles did way better in the season

0neSh0tGGSep 15, 20144 votes

He did better in summer split because it is ADC meta.

Imperio EboySep 16, 20144 votes

he did better because hes a kda player who sometimes stay to get around +15 farm and make Fnatic lose for it.... but than still be 6/1 or so...

MG LogicSep 16, 20143 votes

hes not implying froggen is better than rekkles hes implying that rekkles shouldn't be better than gogoing, save, and deft, while froggen shouldnt be better than dandy, and loveling

KitemareSep 16, 20145 votes

Dear lord, every time I log on to see this who made the list (a list that doesn't state they are the BEST IN THE WORLD AT THEIR ROLE but the Importance they have to their team.) -most of you b***h. Really think about it for a second.... How important is Berg to TSM over Deft to SSGB? Deft IS already on a team that doesnt need him to completely carry **why?? **because it isn't just a one player beast team. They are already superstars. Infact the top tier teams that even made the list are kinda shocking because each one of there players makes a difference. Lets say Korean Wins- SSGW or B w/e "Pawn" is held at the number spot. That tells me his team needs him because they cant do. Tells me he is the better player and that if he loses his team loses and doesnt matter how good or how fed Imp is they will always lose without Pawn.... or SSGW isnt going to completely get wrecked without Imp preforming. Why? Because Pawn and Mata. Sneaky making the list pisses people off. Using my "understanding" on how the guys are listing these people where they are I understand!.. C9 isnt going to Win or Lose because of Sneaky losing badly or being a fed monster. He is important for the reasons they had posted. He is SOLID. Now Alliance needs Froggen to preform honestly they would lose without him not because they are bad because what element he brings to the team. Berg gives much needed leadership to his TSM team thats why he is so far on the list not because he is better then the ones listed before.

IN SUMMARY I THINK ANY PEOPLE LISTED LOWER THEN 8 HAVE TO BE STANDOUT SUPERSTARS ON A TEAM. Its foolish to think Pawn is the only great player on the team and he carries them always and they need him so i don't expect him to be on the list if he wasn't listed already.

Thats just one way of looking at it. The other way is to take everything into account like the Riot people have been doing and leave it be. Let worlds decide whose the best teams and let the players show why they are the best. You don't like the list? Suck a di*k and get over it.

Last thought, NA has to stop making excuses for w/e place we end up in. EU, you aren't better then NA right now at least according to the last international contest between these regions it goes KR>CN>NA>EU>GPL>Other. EU: "BUT THAT WAS SO LONG AGO!" Yeah so was 2013 Worlds. Let it go. EU: "But our Scrims are so good because we are beating Korean teams!" Ya from what i have heard you aren't positive vs NA in those either. EU: "Scrims aren't offical" Yeah so let these Worlds decide.... till the next international clash. Either way stop being pissed you are viewed as the lesser region and stay positive that your teams can make a mark.

Legendary CheeseSep 16, 20141 votes

This post is clearly 100% objective :|

Darth JamalSep 15, 20144 votes

I disagree with this placement, no matter what they factor in, rekkles was player of the year in EU, therefore, no EU player should be ranked higher. think rito, PLS! froggen was only playoff mvp because alliance won, and it would look stupid if they gave that to rekkles, though rekkles still is a better palyer.

wzbB5F6es2Sep 17, 20144 votes

yet rekkles is NOT as important to fnatic as froggen is to alliance think about that ... for one froggen is AS good mechanically for a midlaner as rekkles is for an adc .. for TWO froggen leads makes calls puts strategies pick/ban phases scouts teams and does everything for alliance while rekkles just does his role think about that and yes froggen won mvp of playoffs becoz they destroyed the flying f!ck out of rekkles and fnatic in the finals 3 - 1 ;)

LemmonesSep 15, 20143 votes

i love froggen :3

KemySep 16, 20143 votes

Incoming EU circlejerking about how good EU is until they get destroyed by Korea once again

TnsEagleSep 16, 20142 votes

well , we get destroyed by korea maybe you get destroyed by us

TcellSep 18, 20141 votes

you nailed it !

justinmaxiSep 16, 20142 votes

4th- Mata, 3rd- NaMe1 2nd- Dade 1st- Cool.

aamgdpSep 16, 20142 votes

no tabzz in top 20... this makes no sense... gj rito

GrigôriSep 17, 20142 votes

Both for Rekkles (on Lucian) and Froggen (on Ziggs) the same teamfight is used to display their skill. And both are the last men standing. Great stuff :D

FietSep 16, 20141 votes

I would have put Froggen at least top 5 but number 6 is a good spot. He is definitely the best player from the west. He and Alliance will be great at worlds

TalonRR1Sep 16, 20141 votes

I think think this position is about right for Froggen. Froggen and Rekkles are the best western players and they are the highest on this list so that's good. Some korean and chinese players will be higher but in the end the tournament will show who's the best :).

ldaho CowboySep 17, 20141 votes

Anivia In worlds or i feed. hue

killingu65Sep 18, 20141 votes

froggen and balls are the only two i would place along with the koreans i didnt mention xiao weixiao cause hes from lpl region and came over here but he deserved a spot sneaky doesnt deserve a spot over balls and meteos who are way more important to success of cloud nine than sneaky is like xiaoweixiao and bergsen need to be switched in the order cause xiaoweixiao and did bjergsen beat faker no, but did xiaoweixiao yes and xiaoweixiao is bjergsen ceopt with a much higher cs total and ability to singlehandedly win a game bergsen still needs one person to show up along with him to win and balls is just insane for na nobody not even the second best top dyrus can lane vs him

TcellSep 18, 20141 votes

even if there chance of winning the worlds is low i'll always support them :D go ALLIANCE summoner 4

NïghtSep 18, 20141 votes

Froggen deserve to be in top 10, but I think Bjergsen is quite better than Froggen .. About MVP, don't forget on Rekkles .. his mechanics are beyond human understanding

FreeZamadomix1Sep 18, 20141 votes

rito plex neff Frog-man