so Garena wants to have an all female tourney but...

Bossman POJO·2/8/2015, 7:26:19 PM·43 votes·4,149 views
Ruling Update - Iron Solari League

they put restrictions on lesbian, gay, transgender women. im not a feminist, this is messed up.

its might give an unfair advantage......how?

this is kinda sad of Garena.

73 Comments

gameipedia2/8/2015, 7:30:49 PM42 votes

This...personally I find the fact they are having a female only tourney a bit sexist towards men in the first place but not allowing women who aren't straight or are not 'women' in the common sense makes this extremely bigoted and almost sexist to both men and women, which is just really fucking stupid.

Xenohaz2/8/2015, 10:09:05 PM26 votes

I want to preface this by saying that an all-female tourney doesn't bother me too much. Women really are extremely underrepresented in esports and if the goal is to bring more attention to women in esports, that seems like a fine idea. (Personally, I think gender-mixed teams would be a better way to solve this, but to each their own) But seriously? How the hell do your sexual preferences and/or gender identity grant "unfair advantages?" I've been truly thinking to try to come up with a reason, and I've got nothing. This makes absolutely no sense to me. Trying to fight sexism with even more bigotry will not solve anything.

Gigahappytown2/8/2015, 8:01:04 PM15 votes

"Female only gyms tournmaents and salons are fine! we need a place free from men!!!" "WOW MALE ONLY BARBER THATS SEXIST AND MISOGYNISTIC SHUT IT DOWN!!!"

This is going to spiral into a feminist debate Getting the first blow in :^)

disregardable2/8/2015, 8:19:27 PM15 votes

Garena has a lot of problems. It's a really disgusting, corrupt organization. ^^

Audiomancy2/9/2015, 6:43:51 AM10 votes

I've just realized it says "Lesbian, Gay and Transgender."

...

Hello bi erasure, my old friend.

DynamiteGazelle2/9/2015, 3:10:27 AM9 votes

Whelp, looks like no Taric & Ezreal bot lane..

jade harley BARK2/8/2015, 10:33:56 PM9 votes

I don't even understand the logic here. All female, only if you fit into an extremely narrow catergory? How does this company even get support?

Just curious, why don't you consider yourself a feminist? Seems like you're supporting equal representation of women, and I doubt you believe women should be lower than men. Not trying to force labels or a "feminazi" discussion, I just don't see need to go "I'm not a feminist!!" like its a bad thing.

PoE00dpWDk2/9/2015, 2:58:25 AM9 votes

I was reading the article and I could not stop laughing at how purely stupid it all sounds, at this part i really though it was a prank of some kind.

"1) Each team will be allowed to have a maximum of one (1) Gay/Transgendered woman for the entirety of the tournament day. Therefore, teams cannot do the following: Team_A's first game will be 4 female members and 1 gay, then on Team_A's second game, they will have 4 female members and replace with another gay or transgender member."

Who knows what would happen if two gay or Transgendered be on the same team at the same time, that would just be to much. Don't even think about trying to sneak out you special friend who gives you such a huge advantage out for another, because only one per day for your team. At least they dropped these rules the next day it seems, though I got to wonder how these sort of ideas come about and what the discussion must of been like at the time.

DynamiteGazelle2/9/2015, 3:06:20 AM9 votes

Team_A's first game will be 4 female members and 1 gay

Did we just step back in time 50 years?

"Next thing you know they're gunna be asking for blacks and orientals too. We have to draw the line somewhere!"

The Red Warden2/8/2015, 11:05:54 PM7 votes

So they want to include more women into e-sports by basically segregating the particapents based on sexuality? That is pretty fu--ing stupid.

We will represent more varieties of people by limiting who can can participate. kappa

Thanotos Omega2/8/2015, 10:10:42 PM7 votes

Yeah, i'm a pretty big feminist, And i could see a private female only group for woman looking to avoid being harassed by men, that said, to hell with this bigoted garbage, Riot needs to shut this crap down, And hand out some bans, These people want to be a public organization that means all the same rules that apply to other organizations, and you aren't allowed to discriminate based on Sexual preference, or against other Woman just because of their physical appearance matching a males.

CheckMyDoubles2/9/2015, 6:16:54 AM7 votes

"On the other hand, for any competitions, we seriously look at ensuring there's a fair level playing field for all participants. And there are arguments and concerns from other participants who disputes that Lesbian, Gay, Transgendered Women members may probably have some unfair advantage."

So they're basically saying men, gays, and transgendered people are better at League than heterosexual women are...

How can you demand equality and simultaneously admit to being inferior and discriminatory?

YossarianSensei2/8/2015, 10:43:11 PM6 votes

This shit's put together by feminazis

If anything this is humiliating to Women and LGBT by saying they can't compete with men/straights

This is a load of bul shyt and Riot should seek to restrict this crap

Mirage Seraph2/9/2015, 10:58:36 AM6 votes

... How am I expected to formulate the proper expression of "these people are complete idiots" towards that article?

What about bisexuals? Or pansexuals and the several other lesser known sexualities? Even the update to the ruling is complete and utter idiocy. A band-aid fix to something that shouldn't need a fix in the first place.

After some further looking, seems they removed the restrictions completely, which is good, but it reeks of Damage Control. Simply apologizing really isn't apologizing, say WHY you were mistaken and maybe it'll make a difference.

Never heard of Garena prior to this, can't say I feel like hearing of them in the future if I ever do really get into eSports.

Also. "May probably..." Heh. Literary genius right there.

Focus Teemo2/8/2015, 9:13:12 PM5 votes

Gonna take this spot... grabs popcorn and pulls out a chair.

Anyway regulating who can participate based on sex is sexism in and of itself.

Hrud2/9/2015, 4:04:53 PM5 votes

I'm not certain how with whom the ladies choose to rub their genitals is relevant.

Can someone explain to me?

Also, this ruling really made me laugh:* 1) Each team will be allowed to have a maximum of one (1) Gay/Transgendered woman for the entirety of the tournament day.*

Watch out for the OP gay superweapon.

Millea2/9/2015, 5:43:27 AM4 votes

https://twitter.com/riotgames/status/562711265899188229

LGBT players are welcome at official LoL tourneys. We're working with partners to ensure consistency with our values across all regions.

However, in my opinion, an all-female tournament is stupid.

Ximlee2/9/2015, 3:57:17 PM4 votes

Why the hell does a different sexuality make you less of a woman to these people?!

Freljordan2/9/2015, 4:39:21 AM4 votes

I just love their wording... "And there are arguments and concerns from other participants who disputes that Lesbian, Gay, Transgendered Women members may probably have some unfair advantage."

may probably have...

may probably...

sounds awfully stretched there with just those words, even without looking at actual subject matter. Like really. wow.

Auryiel2/8/2015, 10:38:59 PM3 votes

You're not a feminist... So you DON'T want men and women to have equal rights?

lmfao

FoggyPaws2/9/2015, 4:18:55 AM3 votes

they put restrictions on** lesbian**,** gay**, transgender women. Hahah these are the same thing

In any case, yes it's uncool, someone should hold a men only tournament That or thousands of people should pose as women and invade their tourney

Hahah TaricEzreal

Jesus Chirstos I just read the article

And there are arguments and concerns from other participants who disputes that Lesbian, Gay, Transgendered Women members may probably have some unfair advantage.

Pardon my french but, what in the actual fuck? I'm mad like Sion Udyr Darius

Tentacle Love2/10/2015, 12:08:15 AM3 votes

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they put restrictions on lesbian, gay, transgender women. im not a feminist, this is messed up.

its might give an unfair advantage......how?

this is kinda sad of Garena.

I'd just like to point out here that you're clearly not using the correct definition of feminist.

If you believe that women and men are equal, congratulations, you're a feminist.

If you believe that women are human beings, and not property, then congratulations, you're a feminist.

If you believe that women should not be hurt, raped, murdered, or silenced because they are women, then congratulations, you are a feminist.

Do not allow anyone to tell you otherwise. Feminism is not a dirty word.

AFK Push2/9/2015, 4:39:36 PM2 votes

"I'm not a feminist, because I don't hate women" - Bo Burnham.

In all seriousness though, why can't women just get into the pro scene with all of the guys? Why do they have to segregate themselves by playing with only other women? They aren't helping themselves, they are making things worse.

brad2/9/2015, 8:48:49 AM1 votes

"im not a feminist"

no sorry but what you are doing is textbook feminism

tl;dr you are a femenist