Professional Practice Tool Idea

Coach Bagginz·Feb 25, 2020·1 votes·2,381 views

Teams are at a disadvantage having to scrim other teams to practice. The following reasons are some of the issues: information leaks, teams not showing best picks and strategies, trying new strategies so you don't get to see how they would play on stage, etc... The solutions is simple, but I'm not sure how hard it would be to implement. Bots should be coded to play like professionals (missing very little to no cs, different jungle paths, invades). Teams would be able to pick what champions they play against and they would either play very aggressive or farm heavy. I know that it would take time, but I think this would benefit professionals tremendously. For a long time, video games have been tracking the movement of actual athletes in order to get their in game motions. There may be a way for an analyst to watch a professional and track their motions to some extent. It would take a while for this to actually work and be beneficial, but I think it's worth reviewing. Thank you for reading!

5 Comments

Posui GartFeb 25, 20201 votes

Bots are really different from actual players. You can give them script-like aim and dodge, perfect damage and cd calculation and teamwork, but actual humans don't work that way. The resulting training wouldn't be about "playing better" but "finding a way to counter those bots"

Coach BagginzFeb 25, 20201 votes

I know it's easier said that done, but forgot out trying to find a way to counter the bots. This would allow players to play different strategies and champions at a higher level without the information leaks and other things mentioned above. It wouldn't be perfect and it would have many growing pains, but I think it could be something very useful in the end.

Posui GartFeb 25, 20201 votes

This would allow players to play different strategies and champions at a higher level

Bots aren't "higher level". Maybe they will be eventually, but not now and not anytime soon. Its like playing against team of bronzes, sure it will be harder if those bronzes are playing with scripts, but all you will learn is how to play around scripts, nothing else.

Coach BagginzFeb 25, 20201 votes

This game is hopefully in its infancy. It has the potential to the actual next big sport. It is very important to have a better practice tool in such a game. The bots may not be the best idea, but there needs to be something different. I don't believe scrims are the way to go because of all of the issues and/or teams possibly holding back.

hshtagniemehrcduFeb 27, 20201 votes

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It has the potential to the actual next big sport.

It already is? Example: (Compared to Super Bowl; i think thats kinda big in the US?)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/14/league-of-legends-gets-more-viewers-than-super-bowlwhats-coming-next.html

It is very important to have a better practice tool in such a game. The bots may not be the best idea, but there needs to be something different.

What they really need is something like the chronobreak tool, so that you can practice the same situation (e.g. how to approach elder baron fight) again and again, with the same Items/map state. Play out full game, then have the ability to reset the game to any given timestamp so you can replay a situation. Right now, teams have to play full scrims to _maybe _get that experience, which is the main reason why practice in LoL is so comically inefficient. About the bots: All teams already have acadamy teams; those would do. Developing bots that can keep up with players will take a long time - this isnt chess we'Re talking about.