I think 2015 Worlds shown already, that NA doesn't deserve 3 slots. Who should get that slot?

Clueless Llama·Oct 17, 2015·3 votes·1,066 views

I guess i'll get loads of ...stuff thrown at me for that, but comparing performance of all regions, its clear that NA doesn't deserve 3 slots. Not a single NA team left the group this year, with only C9 losing Qurterfinals spot on tiebreakers. Not to mention that NA teams did not get SKT/EDG groups, and had legitimate chance if they performed. In 2014, 2 NA teams went to quarterfinals. With TSM lucky enough to be in a group with crippled SK Gaming (Jungler "Im stupid enough to get banned a day before worlds" Svenskeren went with racism toxic talk to deserve short suspension and grant TSM playoff spot), and C9 getting mystery gift from Alliance that (sic!) lost to Kabum (lol). In 2013, the only NA team in playoffs were C9 on their Allstar performance (seeded into playoffs).

My first thought was, that LMS should get 3rd slot at cost of NA. Both LMS teams went into playoffs. Beside LMS, only Korea managed to put all their teams into playoffs. FW got to playoffs based on groups draw and luck, just like TSM in 2014, and wouldn't probably win any quarterfinal draw (they lost easily to what people considered second worst team in playoffs), but AHQ loss is just pure bad luck on draw - every other team would lose to SKT there as well. In 2014 AHQ lost playoff spot on tiebreaker (lets forget the TPA performance). In 2013 Bears went into playoffs.

On second hand, why not give 4th spot to Korea? In last 2 Worlds 3/3 Korean teams went to playoffs. 4th Korean team is probably better than any NA team and any EU team (maybe except Fnatic), and certainly way better than 3rd LMS team. This would also be fair to Korean teams and league, as the current split and Korea deep talent pool promotes player migration to other regions. The only drawback is that Worlds would become OGN with guest teams.

So what do you think? Should NA lose the 3rd slot? If so - who should get it?

12 Comments

bobwillneverdieOct 17, 20155 votes

lol, this would be someone from EUNE XD

Judging an entire region based off a few worlds games, seems like your opinion should totally be valued....

KVbqbFsC8eOct 17, 20155 votes

People would have just said the exact same thing about EU last year.

The Bíg TicketOct 17, 20154 votes

Except that EU has historically performed very well at Worlds while NA hasn't. Even in Season 1 without Asian Teams there were still 2 EU teams in the finals and none from NA. In Season 2 EU had 2 semifinalists while NA didn't have 1 team making it out of groups. In Season 3 EU had 1 semifinalist and 1 quarterfinalist while NA only had C9 being seeded into the quarterfinals and then losing to Fnatic.

xJLx MCHammerOct 17, 20153 votes

Without Na or more specifically USA, goodbye to your audience and huge revenue

LibrissOct 17, 20152 votes

idk, venues seem sold out and crowd is more involved with chanting and doing waves etc. than it was in either Korea or NA. @Bobwillneverdie, ''few'' games? NA had 18 games this year at worlds.

3tysonOct 17, 20152 votes

mann i wish i knew how lcs worked so i could give some sort of toxic inteligent reaction to this

but i dont even know what 3 slots are Amumu

TurquoiseYoshiOct 17, 20151 votes

It means that NA has three teams going to Worlds every year, no matter what. Korea, Europe, and China are the same. Taiwan has two, and the Wild Card regions, the winner from Brazil/Latin American North/South, and the winner from Oceania/Japan/Turkey/GPL (the GPL includes Vietnam, Thailand, and other countries from that areas) have one each.

The LexerOct 17, 20151 votes

By that theory EU shouldn't have a slot this year, which means Origen, one of the semifinalists wouldn't be there at all. Logic

Clueless LlamaOct 17, 20152 votes

Yea, I know. If you compare only previous Worlds thats true. But considering last 3 years (2013-2015) the picture is a bit different. Tho, to be honest, the post is just a discussion starter - Im not a fan of taking out 3rd NA slot. Thats because the main factor that should decide slots is player/viewer base. Performance should be a factor if the teams heavily underperform, which is not the case in NA region. NA teams are just borderline bad (C9 broke my heart by sucking in tiebreaker)

rjdude31Oct 18, 20152 votes

Your post would have made EU only have two spots this year. Just accept that your idea was stupid and you should think before talking.