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Trolling the bot lane with Trundle support

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Coming soon to a Solo Queue game near you – if it hasn't already – is the Troll King in the bot lane. First played this split in Taiwan's LoL Masters League, support Trundle also debuted recently in the west thanks to Fnatic's Bora "YellOwStaR" Kim. An explosion of Solo Queue popularity has followed with a surprising amount of success.

While the oddball pick was first considered experimental at best, and trolling (mind the pun) at worst, there's a lot more behind Trundle support than the restlessness of an undefeated team or enraging your Solo Queue opponents.

a Troll in Name Alone

Last year, Trundle took to the top lane as a possible answer to breaking the seemingly endless reign of Shyvana and Renekton. With his formidable ultimate, Subjugate (R), Trundle steals 20 percent of his target's magic resistance and armor while healing for the damage done, making him strong against tankier champions who stack these resistances.

In a post-Cinderhulk world, Trundle appears ideal, and has seen play in the top lane from Edward Gaming's Yang "Koro1" Tong, Invictus Gaming's Zhihao "Zzitai" Liu, and Snake's Xuan-jun "Flandre" Li with varying amounts of success. The troll king was also trotted out for a successful jungle stint by KOO Tigers' Ho-jin "Hojin" Lee in a recent match against Incredible Miracle.

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However, with other stronger top lane options in an increasingly diverse meta, Trundle finds a new home in the bottom lane, offering the same resistance shredding while also adding zone control in smaller lane skirmishes. Trundle's Pillar of Ice (E) not only zones out opponents while also applying a slow, but knocks back anyone who happens to be directly underneath it.

Combined with bonus movement speed, attack speed, and healing from Frozen Domain (W), his ability to control the terrain of 2v2 and even 2v3 engages makes him an annoyance to those who try to start fights or gank his lane. With another slow from Chomp (Q), Trundle makes everyone around him sticky enough to win just about any trade.

"As a support, your primary role is to be annoying for the enemy team," YellOwStaR says of the pick. "You are not really able to peel for your ADC [with Trundle], but you can catch easily and slow."

It's Rude to Stare

When Machi E-Sports' Jian-Hong "Dreamer" Ceng locked in Trundle support in LMS Week 7 against Midnight Sun Esports, the casters were mystified, quickly changing their discussion from aforementioned Flandre's top lane Trundle to the eccentricity of the pick.

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In the waning weeks of 2015 LMS Summer, Dreamer proved that Trundle support was hardly an oddity, picking the champion up in four of their remaining five games. This additionally inspired other LMS supports – Hong Kong Esports' Joo-sung "Olleh" Kim and Flash Wolves' Shuo-Jie "SwordArt" Hu – to give the troll a try.

While Dreamer's influence has been felt, Trundle has a low win rate of 29 percent in the LMS. Some of this can be attributed to the opponents those teams faced – for example, AHQ was heavily favored to beat the Flash Wolves regardless of SwordArt's support Trundle – but it also points to how finicky the pick is at high levels of play.

Trundle's strengths are his ability to engage, disengage, and create or control terrain. However, his lane pressure is limited to annoying opponents with his slow, rather than a harder form of crowd control like an Annie Pyromania passive stun or Thresh Death Sentence (Q). When taking this troll as a support, make certain that you have good coordination with your laning partner and teammates.

Yellowstar Under the Bridge

More recently, Trundle accompanied YellOwStaR and Fnatic in their final two matches en route to an 18-0 perfect regular season. As European spectators tried to wrap their heads around the pick, YellOwStaR's Trundle fit perfectly into Fnatic's playstyle of controlling vision through minion waves and roaming, allowing them to choose the skirmishes they wanted.

"[In the first game] SK had a better laning phase champions, you don't really want to fall behind so we had to swap," YellOwStaR says of their first Week 9 game, against SK Gaming. But he says that the forced lane swap worked out for them in the end. "Swapping can be good because Trundle has high mobility and good roaming potential to catch out people that are out of position."

YellOwStaR used Trundle's mobility not only to make picks, but also to secure the oppressive vision net that plays a large role in the majority of Fnatic's victories.

It's Good to be a Troll King

When locking in the Troll King as a support you want to abuse his aforementioned mobility by roaming, or aiding your carry in extended trades. While Trundle admittedly lacks hard engage, he more than makes up for this with his knack for hindering an opponent over an extended period of time. Regardless of position, Trundle is always at home shredding tanks. What he lacks in early kill pressure, he'll more than make up for in skirmishes once your team groups to fight.

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"If people are trying to trade with you, don't forget that you are fast, you can slow people, and have some damage," YellOwStaR says, adding that Trundle still provides significant presence in lane, especially when you are engaged on. "You don't have to be afraid of fighting back because you are tanky too."

While Trundle won't likely become a must pick or ban in your next Solo Queue game, don't count him out as a viable option. With innate tankiness and the ability to control skirmishing terrain, this troll is hardly a joke.

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157 Comments

Tritan38 votes

third

Wubbi10 votes

who cares if your third? Do you want a cookie, a medal?

Tritan30 votes

{quoted}

who cares if your third? Do you want a cookie, a medal?

obviously you care

and it was a joke, i was first

Erikssun79 votes

Dude, he's third. Show some respect.

Myrmaster16 votes

Ender was a third. Just sayin'.

UNSCmagick4 votes

Well played sir, logged in to upvote

Hexodus7 votes

Well I guess you can say he's butthurt over it, get it? His name is BruisedBum. Ok, I will go now...

FastestClimaxNA4 votes

metal*

Hellfrost5 votes

medal*

QuikWafflez4 votes

Really hope that you're kidding

Mein Kramft5 votes

meddle*

Nazarith10 votes

ender wiggin is that you?

TheGiftOfTetanus6 votes

I cry because so few people will get this :(

Booty Conqueror25 votes

Trundle can support bot lane, but graves cant have a cigar.

bad adc gg 3 votes

actually.... he does have a cigar btw.

MrGoatOnABoat5 votes

Gragas, esq. gets to have a cigar.. :P lol

Blind Minion15 votes

Just gonna say that I was the first one to play Ashe as an ADC starting in season 3.

Also, I invented round wheels and the concept of drinking water to stay hydrated.

2CooL424 votes

OMG I KNEW I WOULD MEET YOU SOME DAY!

What will be your next invention sempiesummoner 30

BrevardRonin2 votes

psh, water doesn't have electrolytes, and everyone knows electrolytes are what the body, and plants, crave.

Dark Jigoo2 votes

not sure if you saw Idiocracy, but judging from your comment i will guess that you have. if not, i recommend you check it out

SkellyTheKing12 votes

Ap lee song support inc LeeSin

2CooL425 votes

I like it, sounds op lol LeeSin +item 3092 =summoner 30

Duke036 votes

Putting a stone in front of some one that dies is to troll

LaceUp236 votes

Rito, stahp giving my teammates shitty ideas!

Krystorr5 votes

any day before this LCS thingy, you would have gotten so much hate in any match trying to play trundle support. "Trundle's a top laner not a support dumbass" these people just... gawd. they are the reason I stay out of ranked.

7ha7guy7771 votes

I'm pretty sure most toplaners with crowd control can support. Not all of them can support well, but i'm sure the element of surprise can help occasionally.

DexDude242 votes

I have done Maokai, Malphite, and Volibear. All of which work really well and are pretty strong for peeling, engaging, and roaming.

Zäräthös5 votes

Please, please, please... stop giving solo queue people bad ideas, like we don't have enough troll picks already. The most common thing I'm hearing nowadays is "I've seen that meta in LCS, so OP!", and then the guy finishes the game with an OP score of 0/7/2. Put a disclaimer like "This kind of plays are performed by professional gamers, don't try this at home!", thanks.

dispergosum4 votes

When will skarner show up in the bot lane?

Blind Minion4 votes

As soon as you become a pro

superpanda024 votes

now we just need adc bard :O (2.5 attack speed is hilarious on him xD i highly recommend it)

MikeArcher883 votes

good morning lcs noobs I played trundle support since almsot i paly lol ,befoer even his rework But oblviousl the only choics is the lcs chocie that ppl follow these days adn its boring fakin touranemnts

AggressivePanda13 votes

im not sure if yr speaking in tongues or trying to speak english

Blind Minion20 votes

I think it's some kind of ancient alien tongue. Possibly French.

øHaruø5 votes

Please don't insult the French language. It's obviously a Brazilian player.

2CooL425 votes

he is in EUNE so...

C60XZRAIRL2 votes

He's obviously just trolling Trundle

All the New Wave2 votes

futurama!

I Yung Soldi I6 votes

this dude can talk but graves can't have a cigar

Virum Sanguinum3 votes

People all over been doing this on and off for a long time. Really nothing new. I do agree though that when riot gives this kind of thing attention that a bunch of people whom don't have a clue how to play it, try it. Advise to all of you out there that are gonna try this...Do it in bots or custom games first so you at least have some idea of what you are doing before playing it in PvP. Cheers to all of you out there that already played Trundle Support before the hype and play it well. You know who you are.

Ichigondm2 votes

... i usually get offended when a pro player gets credit for something that the masses do waaay before... but your comment ceased my rage... i thank you sir/ma'am(its usually the support idea like the naut support thing) i cant wait for the article on skarner support XD

xDISCONNECTEDx2 votes

TIME TO TROLL

Gordo San2 votes

Dat pillar though is ridiculous.

You think creep block was bad?

DownRightPro2 votes

i played trundle support before all this lcs stuff, he is great for lane pushing and makes most adc life a living hell, i also have yet to loose a game as trundle support lo

Phatty771 votes

Of course after I did it last season with item 3302 and showed others in soloque to forget about it will it return by a pro and receive a massive swing in actual thought

Tritan29 votes

it was all you, you were the first one to do it. nice

DARKONE881 votes

its nice to see pros tryna switch it up but stop making articles about it. your are runeing the game for playes who already play agent the meta play style.. players who figure these things out way b4 the pros do it that allows the game to evolve.. I feel all these articles do is take away from the creative players bag of tricks. I was paying my varus mud 2 month b4 the article came now every one play it same with the vlad ....ive bin running trundle bot since s2....all u are doing is crapping on creativity.. if they didn't watch the and learn something u should not make an article about the surprise champ in line the then every one dose it and at also feel like u are steering the meta itself. and its so sad cuz then come the trundle nerffes....

superpanda023 votes

if the pros play it you aren't doing something crazy enough for it to be un-meta (non meta? not meta?)

ImTrollNotATroll3 votes

pro players dont decide the meta, they just play what they feel is strong, however with riot making these articles its making information more accessible to low elo players about what pros do, which is a horrible idea, they dont understand that just because a pro play does it doesnt mean they can do it and it ruins solo queue

BlackBeetleBombr9 votes

Pro players actually have a large part in deciding the meta. Urgot wasn't meta until he was played mid in the Lcs. He was strong before that game and after the patch giving him mana scaling on the shield, but he wasn't meta because everyone thought he was bad. Same with reworked Sion. He didn't have a buff between his rework and his Lcs debut, but people didn't start playing him that much until then.

Nunu is strong in a tank meta because he has two sources of % hp with cinderhulk and his consume passive, and despite not having any hard cc his ult is so strong that people will often burn summoners to get out of it, it does massive aoe damage, and it removes a ton of stats to anyone in the aoe, but he isn't meta because the pros don't play him in Lcs.

Nasus is strong in a tank meta because his wither makes the enemy marksman significantly less effective , he has a spell that can do large damage even when he builds full tank, and he has aoe armor shred, PLUS he has aoe % max hp damage, but he isn't meta because pros don't play him in the LCS.

The thing is what is meta isn't always what is strong, it's what's popular, and lots of people will blindly follow what the pros do, making it meta. Things become popular because they're strong, but not everything that is strong in the current meta is considered meta.

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