ADC in 2018

Qwinn·Jun 13, 2018·22 votes·11,395 views

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Riot Games what the fuck?

22 Comments

ReySolomonJun 13, 201812 votes

just saw the game where faker went Darius ADC lol.

I'm actually interested in watching LCK/LCS now.

I was so bored watching the LCS/LCK every game was the same crap (Twitch/tristana/kaisa/varus) BUT NOW it's mages/bruisers going ADC lol.

QwinnJun 13, 201812 votes

I mean who needs an ADC when you have a cannon minion with banner? https://i.imgur.com/xcsgkD2.jpg

~~the irony when bang is playing a support~~

BLIGHTBRINGERJun 13, 20187 votes

Guess Top Laners and just about everyone else got what they wanted lol.

Even when Top lane was bad before the release of Conqueror, and just about everything else they didn't have to deal with the fact that their champion wasn't viable in their lane anymore.

The nerfs to crit were deserved but I still don't understand the nerfs to defense stats that they received on top of all that. I mean they were already the most squishiest role by default now I see them getting melted from damage at early levels.

Always angry tbhJun 13, 20181 votes

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Guess Top Laners and just about everyone else got what they wanted lol.

Even when Top lane was bad before the release of Conqueror, and just about everything else they didn't have to deal with the fact that their champion wasn't viable in their lane anymore.

The nerfs to cit were deserved but I still don't understand the nerfs to defense stats that they received on top of all that. I mean they were already the most squishiest role by default now I see them getting melted from damage at early levels.

They wanted to reward aggressive play bot lane to finally get rid of shit like Kog afk farming and poking while hardly being punished by engage from an ADC like Lucian. And it worked. Kind of.

PanAvokadoJun 13, 20185 votes

I am actually sick of these adc players.... All that happend is that they lost 4ad lvl one and they got it back in scaling, and their item set is finnaly same cost as item sets of other carries. And they are acting like: "Oh nooo! we lost 4 ad lvl 1, our items are so expensive, we dont deal with this sht we´ll play urgot yasuo and irelia bottom just to make riot thinks that they have to bring everything back"

90% of adc champs are still able to do their job (kill front line) but they want more, they want just kill everyone from the edge of the teamfight and do the most dmg and make everyone peel for them.... Now it´s actually OK because team is peeling for the strongest (most fed) member of team and not just automaticly adc with ardent supp.....

Well thats all I wanted to say.

P.S: I apologize for any grammar mistakes that might be found in my share, Iam european....

BanuvanJun 13, 20183 votes

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I am actually sick of these adc players.... All that happend is that they lost 4ad lvl one and they got it back in scaling, and their item set is finnaly same cost as item sets of other carries. And they are acting like: "Oh nooo! we lost 4 ad lvl 1, our items are so expensive, we dont deal with this sht we´ll play urgot yasuo and irelia bottom just to make riot thinks that they have to bring everything back"

90% of adc champs are still able to do their job (kill front line) but they want more, they want just kill everyone from the edge of the teamfight and do the most dmg and make everyone peel for them.... Now it´s actually OK because team is peeling for the strongest (most fed) member of team and not just automaticly adc with ardent supp.....

Well thats all I wanted to say.

P.S: I apologize for any grammar mistakes that might be found in my share, Iam european....

You should read the patch notes again and look at item changes as well to figure out why marksmen aren't being played ( with the exception of a couple ) anymore. Riot hit marksmen from every angle and are hitting them again in the next patch to dismantle them even more.

PanAvokadoJun 13, 20182 votes

Well I´ve read it several times I know what riot´ve done but its still not as horrible as markchan players think it is, they are just so used to meta where everyone gives them attention and all the game is about them. When My lane,(My toplane) was garbage, non-toplaners were trying to tell us that its ok. Now Iam doing the same but there´s a little hidden diffrence. Iam saying truth. They werent saying truth.

Whats an actuall problem with adc?

-they are usefull in teamfight -they can kill each other on lane -they have strong late game dps -and there´s actually buch of adc picks that are allowing players to play agro early to midgame lucian, draven, Iam not too sure now whats sivirs early game but her midgame is still good,and I´ve seen a lot of stormroozor vayne these days I know she´s more like late game adc but lets call her snowwbally adc, just cause she´s that as well :)

Toplane had non of that in its dark time,

I hope u agree that one champion should not be strongest member of team at all stages of the game.

btw I still dont got it... whats an actuall nerf to adc in this patch? I guess they nerfed shield supports but thats not nerf to adc, thats nerf to low skill champion class that´ve prevented people from having fun for such a long time, actually its almost year since ardent has been overbuffed and shielders have never been nerfed to the ground. They´ve always been Overpowerd or like REALY OVEROVERPOWERD. Then there´re like 3nerfs to 3 non-crit markshamns that riot forgot about 2 weeks ago, they were supposed to be nerfed way earlier.

OtterlyLostJun 13, 20182 votes

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Well I´ve read it several times I know what riot´ve done but its still not as horrible as markchan players think it is, they are just so used to meta where everyone gives them attention and all the game is about them. When My lane,(My toplane) was garbage, non-toplaners were trying to tell us that its ok. Now Iam doing the same but there´s a little hidden diffrence. Iam saying truth. They werent saying truth.

Whats an actuall problem with adc?

-they are usefull in teamfight -they can kill each other on lane -they have strong late game dps -and there´s actually buch of adc picks that are allowing players to play agro early to midgame lucian, draven, Iam not too sure now whats sivirs early game but her midgame is still good,and I´ve seen a lot of stormroozor vayne these days I know she´s more like late game adc but lets call her snowwbally adc, just cause she´s that as well :)

Toplane had non of that in its dark time,

I hope u agree that one champion should not be strongest member of team at all stages of the game.

btw I still dont got it... whats an actuall nerf to adc in this patch? I guess they nerfed shield supports but thats not nerf to adc, thats nerf to low skill champion class that´ve prevented people from having fun for such a long time, actually its almost year since ardent has been overbuffed and shielders have never been nerfed to the ground. They´ve always been Overpowerd or like REALY OVEROVERPOWERD. Then there´re like 3nerfs to 3 non-crit markshamns that riot forgot about 2 weeks ago, they were supposed to be nerfed way earlier.

Patch 8.11 nerfed ADCs:

Base armor Health Regen AD

This means early game they hit less hard, making trading with tanker opponents harder. Their base armor being lowered means they take more damage in their trades and through out the game and their health regen being nerfed means that they dont heal back up from these devastating trades half as well as they used to. The lower AD also makes their CSing harder so it's actually more difficult to get the items you need.

8.11 also nerfed these things that ADCs used:

IE got changed All of their items got a bump in price Fleetfootwork got nerfed and no longer scales with crit.

Higher costing items means it takes longer to get them. The change to IE means that now you need twice the amount of items for it to be relevant or good. And the fleetfootwork nerf feeds into the fact they dont have a consistent way to sustain back up from the trades that wi hit and hurt a lot harder; furthermore it no longer scales as well, meaning late game on these late game ADCs, its worthless, effectively leaving them with no good keystones.

8.12 continued to nerf ADCs by:

Reducing peel support power across the board; shields got slashed, all items that give bonus HEALS and shields got their bonuses reduced(so supports who provide healing, an already less strong aspect of many of them now, also got hit for next to no reason), and the CDR of support items also go reduced. This means that supports are weaker and unable to help get the weakened ADCs through their already hard laning phase and even if they do, they'll be less likely to be able to help in teamfights.

So yes, it is that bad. Top and midlaners can say what they want about how their champions have been through similar things but honestly, this is patently untrue. Riot had never gone through and systematically dismantled of their champions and not in a large, sweeping manner. ADCs got the shaft at the end of the day.

ThefrostyvikingJun 13, 20182 votes

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I am actually sick of these adc players.... All that happend is that they lost 4ad lvl one and they got it back in scaling, and their item set is finnaly same cost as item sets of other carries. And they are acting like: "Oh nooo! we lost 4 ad lvl 1, our items are so expensive, we dont deal with this sht we´ll play urgot yasuo and irelia bottom just to make riot thinks that they have to bring everything back"

90% of adc champs are still able to do their job (kill front line) but they want more, they want just kill everyone from the edge of the teamfight and do the most dmg and make everyone peel for them.... Now it´s actually OK because team is peeling for the strongest (most fed) member of team and not just automaticly adc with ardent supp.....

Well thats all I wanted to say.

P.S: I apologize for any grammar mistakes that might be found in my share, Iam european....

The reason pros dont play marksmen is because they demand effectiveness from the champion from a very early point since they dont waste any time.

The majority of current marksmen need 3-4 items just to get going, the better ones need 2.....which is still much too late often.

Thats why they play melee and mages who get a solid or even powerful spike right from the first item while still scaling into lategame, by picking such a champ they can stomp the enemy´s weak AD and just snowball the game.

Pro´s dont let you get away with openings like needing 2 more items to be relevant, thats why they are pro´s x)

BLIGHTBRINGERJun 13, 20181 votes

Quoting IWillDominate are we?

PanAvokadoJun 15, 20181 votes

Yea, partially.

JoeMGJun 13, 20185 votes

I'm ok with this.

Anything that promotes diversity is very much welcomed when this game has ~150 champs and only about 20 are viable at a time.

IceKingChernobogJun 13, 20185 votes

“we want more diversity botlane, by removing the existence of marksman except Kai’sa Ezreal from existence”

GeminiRuneJun 13, 20183 votes

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“we want more diversity botlane, by removing the existence of marksman except Kai’sa Ezreal from existence”

I guess Lucian didn't feel so good...

SalamencęJun 14, 20184 votes

No don't bring back "adc in 2k17 LUL". Remember what happened after that meme? We don't need that again.

KonsequenceJun 13, 20183 votes

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InfernapeJun 13, 20183 votes

You do realise Riot is actually working on a non league related game? It's been in research and development for ages. Ryze and Tryndamere handed over operations to another team to work on it.

Not to mention Riot actually acquired a game studio not that long ago.