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PC Riot Police? Pants Are Dragon banned from scouting grounds? SAD!

Eiger··77 votes·12,450 views
preseason fun times - Rank 25+ ChALLENGER JUNGLER - PANTS ARE DRAGON

I really hope Pants are Dragon is just trolling and the story about his ban is not real!

How sad would it be if they ban one of the most popular streamers from Scouting Grounds because he has said the "N-word" once and not even in game? Its in every rap song...

He is not toxic or racist at all!

As Trump would say: SAD!

88 Comments

PhantomGG25 votes

Aphromoo Saying %%%%%% on youtube and cussing like a mad man, no penalty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7IY72U-yd4

Tyler 1: Soon to be unbanned and allowed to play to prove he is reformed despite running it down mid COUNTLESS times

Jensen: LITERALLY CHEATED his way into challenger with DDosing.

Fuck if i was to list every single instance someone got a out of jail free card, it's ridiculous.

But pants are dragon, one of the MOST KIND and NONE toxic players in challenger who is border line friends with EVERYONE in challenger and in pro play, can't go to fucking scouting grounds? OVER A SINGLE video.

Yeah fuck you riot.

Rainfall2 votes

What was the racial slur video though?

Raengoku2 votes

Im pretty sure he straight up called someone a ni-double Guh-er, then stated he was proud of it or something.

Marik von Bern1 votes

He was angry and said, "shouldn't have listened to that N...IGGER call!" So just a replacement for 'fucking'. He just thought of the most taboo word he could think of to vent his frustration.

spool326 votes

[{quoted}](name=Marik von Bern,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=WRdJZUYl,comment-id=000c000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-11T12:28:28.052+0000)

He was angry and said, "shouldn't have listened to that N...IGGER call!" So just a replacement for 'fucking'. He just thought of the most taboo word he could think of to vent his frustration.

good riddance to him.

I've been frustrated by a lot of things but never used that word as a response. If he said it then, he's said it plenty of times before... things don't just "pop out" of your mouth.

He doesn't deserve to be in the LCS.

TheHappyReaperz10 votes

With all due respect to Pants, he frequently curses, often refers to people with some kind of term derived from autism, and often acts very immature, for lack of a better word. While I do think the scouting grounds ban is a tad excessive, Pants isn't a saint, and it's not a good idea to portray him as one.

Master23Roshi7 votes

I’m glad riot banned him from going. There are a ton of “bad words” to use but he has to pull out a racist one? Come on, that’s not cool. Then he said “am I proud that I called him the n word? Yeah kinda” I was watching his steam when he said it and I haven’t watched his stream since.

Miror B2 votes

That being said, it doesn't mean we should strip him of potential jobs just because of this. Dardoch has done far worse, being banished from multiple teams, yet rito hasn't stepped in on him yet. If rito was smart, they'd let him stay in this, as then they could shift the entire "blame" aspect onto the owners should one of them choose to sign him.

Thewannabegamer1 votes

Jensen never actually ddos'd anyone just threatened to in fits of rage. Still not ok but a common misconception. And last season he hovered around d1.

ßæuty19 votes

I'm honestly pissed that they did this, like are they fucking serious (pardon my french) but this isn't fair at all. I really like pants :( I haven't been a fan for much but honestly I love his videos and his streams.

Slythion19 votes

This wasn't necessary Riot, wtf

TheMissit16 votes

He defenetly deserved to go there and it really sucks they denied him... I mean look how C9 Jensen is a pro after he was permabanned.. and pants not to scouting grounds cause he used slang not even meaning it as offence... that is just not fair

The Bad Touch9 votes

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Raoul4 votes

While number 2 and 3 might be up for debate, what problem do you have when homosexual people want to be just as unhappy as heterosexuals?

Segius1 votes

How is 3 up to debate at all....?

DuskDaUmbreon5 votes

Because it's a grey area in whether or not you think a fetus constitutes an actual person or not.

Segius2 votes

well it turns into a actual person?

How can you even think of killing what is basically a underdeveloped baby

[sg-ahri-1]

Morgan le Fey1 votes

{quoted}

well it turns into a actual person?

How can you even think of killing what is basically a underdeveloped baby

[sg-ahri-1]

One of the biggest issues is that most "pro-life" groups originated from anti-birth control stuff, and that's not really a legacy most of them are trying to shake. Anti-birth control activists have a long history of both trying to control anyone they see as a potential child-bearer and keep them in the home. They also traditionally try to force people to resort to abstinence-only birth control or be "punished" by babies (with no real thought on how that poor child is treated after Q_Q). It's horrid.

It makes being pro-life and pro-women's rights a very complicated affair. There's too much hatred and too few attempts at understanding each other on all sides right now. Genuinely pro-life folks are often ignorant of womens' rights issues and don't even bother to try to learn about why they matter. Anti-choice folks deliberately muddle the conversation and use dead babies as weapons against people with uteruses. Pro-choice folks usually can't see any difference between the two, and naturally react with justified harshness against the evils of the anti-choice groups. It's not a good situation, and almost no one cares enough to try to make it better. There are too many other little hells in the world, especially right now.

Segius1 votes

I don't really have a political stance on this, i'm just seeing this from the child's perspective

[sg-janna]

Rman1273 votes

There is an argument that marriage is a Christian conception and that in Christianity, marriage is only between a man and a woman. The entire debate on gay marriage is basically over wording. Transexuality does indeed have a mental disorder associated with it called Gender Dysphoria. Abortion is a highly debatable topic though when it comes to scientific discoveries.

Marik von Bern3 votes

Marriage is something that has been around for thousands of years. It has a presence in every successful society regardless of religion, because it enables individuals to consistently retain and impart culture to the next generation. As far as this function, homosexuals engaging in it is considered to be lowering the authority of the ceremony. Marriage in this view is a part of a deep-rooted system meant to keep society healthy, in which simply feeling a psychological bond is not considered enough to warrant marriage.

Of course our current society is individualistic and suffering from globalism, leading to a 40% divorce rate and parents especially in NA not raising their children, but the above is all how society used to be run, and is how it's run in non-western countries still. There are also legal problems in countries where marriage benefits exist, exactly for the sake of population control.

Segius1 votes

A well worded, logical take on the situation, yet gets down voted

DNFVixen1 votes

{quoted}

There is an argument that marriage is a Christian conception and that in Christianity, marriage is only between a man and a woman. The entire debate on gay marriage is basically over wording. Transexuality does indeed have a mental disorder associated with it called Gender Dysphoria. Abortion is a highly debatable topic though when it comes to scientific discoveries.

Marriage was around before christianity, also many other religions and spiritualities have had marriage without any influence from chistianity. If they want to debate that then they better learn history and fast or else they will get slapped by facts so hard and fast that their heads will spin. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Søn oƒ Echidnæ4 votes

Wait..........You don't believe in gay marriage, transexuality is a mental disorder.....but abortion is murder?

You won't abort a kid because it is murder, but you also will never truly accept them if they turn out to be one of those things? Wouldn't it ironically turn out they were better off dead then? Because no one in their right mind, "disorder" or not, would want to walk around knowing their mommy or daddy doesn't think they should ever be allowed to marry, or that their options for existence include being labeled as "crazy" in some manner or another, for turning out either to be A or B.

Automated Riven4 votes

I would simply like to point out that accepting someone and thinking what they do is wrong are not the same thing. My brother is a bisexual atheist who lives with two transgendered males (female biologically) and sleeps with both of them as he sees fit. My parents however are an extremely conservative christian couple. And nobody could make an arguement to suggest that they dont accept him. They simply think he is wrong.

Morgan le Fey1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=WRdJZUYl,comment-id=001500010001,timestamp=2017-11-10T19:39:44.201+0000)

I would simply like to point out that accepting someone and thinking what they do is wrong are not the same thing. My brother is a bisexual atheist who lives with two transgendered males (female biologically) and sleeps with both of them as he sees fit. My parents however are an extremely conservative christian couple. And nobody could make an arguement to suggest that they dont accept him. They simply think he is wrong.

And honestly that's wonderful! Which I'm very Christian myself and strongly disagree with cultural christianity's ideas about gender identity and sexual orientation, respectful disagreement a welcome change in that context. This is assuming they don't harass him or make snide remarks or constantly bring it up or generally make a big deal of it (which I'm not assuming they do - I've just met too many people who use passive aggression as a sword and claims of love and respect as a shield in emotionally abusive situations).

Automated Riven2 votes

My personal opinion is that, one may choose to do whatever they so choose, assuming that what they choose to do does not encroach on the freedom of another. Personally I, myself, am a very conservative christian. (my biggest vice is swearing tbh) Altho I don't believe that my beliefs would should be used in anyway to force someone else to believe or act the way I believe, or believe someone should act. I strongly believe in the morality as it is depicted in the bible and as such tend to disagree with homosexuality and whatnot. But outside of a christian community my beliefs hold little merrit. And as such I would always argue for freedom over ones personal beliefs.

The Bad Touch2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Søn oƒ Echidnæ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=WRdJZUYl,comment-id=00150001,timestamp=2017-11-10T13:24:47.287+0000)

Wait..........You don't believe in gay marriage, transexuality is a mental disorder.....but abortion is murder?

You won't abort a kid because it is murder, but you also will never truly accept them if they turn out to be one of those things? Wouldn't it ironically turn out they were better off dead then? Because no one in their right mind, "disorder" or not, would want to walk around knowing their mommy or daddy doesn't think they should ever be allowed to marry, or that their options for existence include being labeled as "crazy" in some manner or another, for turning out either to be A or B.

You don't magically "turn" into anything.

You make a choice. You live with the choice and all the negatives that come with it.

Søn oƒ Echidnæ2 votes

No one here is arguing that it is a magical happening, like one day you wake up gay by accident after years of heterosexuality.

Either way, it's not up to someone who disagrees with someone being gay for instance, to determine the consequences should be that person never be allowed the happiness of marriage, in example.

A natural consequence is something like, you didn't look both ways before crossing the street, and are struck by a car as a result.

Or, choosing to murder someone leads to your incarceration, and later your execution.

A tad different in my opinion. You're knowingly choosing these two options, which both have severe consequences, for different versions of being wrong.

"Choosing" to be gay, in your example, shouldn't be a death sentence or a lifelong of misery (as a consequence) because being gay is perceived to be "wrong" by society. It's not knowingly inflicting harm to someone else, nor is it inviting undo harm to itself. It's simply different than you and I.

DNFVixen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Bad Touch,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=WRdJZUYl,comment-id=001500010002,timestamp=2017-11-11T00:15:37.321+0000)

You don't magically "turn" into anything.

You make a choice. You live with the choice and all the negatives that come with it.

CHOICE?! WE DON'T HAVE A #@$#&^# CHOICE IN IT YOU LITTLE @#$% @$%^@%#! I was born the way I am I would have loved to be born a normal god damned person, I fucking prayed to be straight for YEARS before I accepted I am who I am and there is not a thing I can do about it, now I am happy living with my gf. Wanna know something I am happy now with who I am, it is @#$%^$# like you who made me depressed and suicidal for years.

By the way Transgender people may be recognized as having a mental disorder but there is a treatment, it is called a SEX CHANGE. Accept it or move on either way it doesn't effect you or your life, it effects THEIR'S. It is not a choice that people get to make, people don't WANT to be transgender it is something that happens as they develop before birth! Educate yourself on what you talk about. If anyone has a mental disorder it is someone like YOU!

Both are things that people don't fucking choose, if you don't want to listen to science then you do that but it doesn't change facts.

Now I am gonna enjoy my life as a happy lesbian and if you have problem with the fact we exist because you are small minded, I don't give a flying @#$%!

FYI I am sending your post to one of the wardens.

P.S. I am so irritated I need kitten videos now.

[sg-ahri-3]

Zed genius8 votes

i feel sorry for him

AmazoX8 votes

Unjustified ban, Fuck sake.

Längsten8 votes

Pants deserves to go to the scouting grounds, revoke your revoke Riot.

This is 100% unfair.

Shemyazaz7 votes

Bravo Riot gaming, after sex-scandals of your employees and casters, after accepting flamers and cheaters into the lcs to keep the hype train going, after people abusing your banning-system to force bans on other players, you decided to deny the NA number one seat for jungle the opportunity to go to your scouting ground event because he said the n-word in rage 6 month ago. Thumbs up guys, really solid work! Very happy to see you protecting your community by raising a new type of toxic players, the report happy, passive inting system abusers. Very very good job. Slow clap

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

TheMissit6 votes

He should go to scouting grounds because he is also kind of educating his communtity how to play good league and keep the mentality up, I think that defenetly makes up the one word, cause he is a good example for lots of players.

Abibyama5 votes

Denied*

He can still apply for next year

Slythion4 votes

worse than denied though, wasn't the invitation revoked

YoungFarmer5 votes

As a certified cracker, I think people need to stop being pussies and stop letting words hurt them.

Arakadia12 votes

And I think people need to find a middle ground balance between being completely desensitized and telling their kids not to use the word stupid.

Morgan le Fey6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Im A Cracker,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=WRdJZUYl,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-11-10T00:46:05.006+0000)

As a certified cracker, I think people need to stop being pussies and stop letting words hurt them.

Sticks and stones just break my bones - it takes words to hurt me.

This whole concept of "not letting words hurt you" is only even conceivable if someone totally desensitizes themselves to others and assume their they're only one who matter. That's a ridiculously unhealthy and honestly pretty sociopathic mindset. If implemented, it would overall deprive the person of strong participation in social life. No one respects someone who respects no one.

Even that aside, what's with this modern concept that words don't matter? Words are, I'd argue, the only things that do matter. Unless you have to deal with trauma, force can only affect your body. But words? Words are how we process the world, and how we learn most of the things about it. Words are how we communicate and coordinate. Words are our most important outside resource on our own virtues and flaws, and far more useful than the muddled results of introspection in most cases. Words might not (always) result in physical harm, but they change who we are. In a world devoid of words, you would be utterly unlike who you are now, and everything you hear that has any meaning at all affects your trajectory in some tiny way.

Even if you were to magically discard words without being affected, which I believe is impossible to do entirely, you'd become the sort of person who disregards words, meaning the sort of person who disregards the opinions of others. Again, if held in logical consistency, that's an unhealthy mindset that will leave you isolated and devoid of relationships of any type. Physical harm changes how we function, but words change who we are. Heck, even in cases of physical force, most of the time that comes as part of coercion or hatred of some sort, which all revolves around words and communication. Really only random acts of violence are excluded from that, and even in those, the perpetrator has been shaped at least partially by words into the sort of person who would commit random acts of violence.

And all of that is not to mention that this philosophy of "words can never hurt me" is itself communicated by words. You can't even talk about it without being affected by them.

This is totally unrelated, but using "pussies" as an insult really weirds me out in most cases. Most people who use it are straight men, who... presumably like the organ in question? So why's that an insult for them?

[sg-lux-2]

YoungFarmer2 votes

{quoted}

Sticks and stones just break my bones - it takes words to hurt me.

This whole concept of "not letting words hurt you" is only even conceivable if someone totally desensitizes themselves to others and assume their they're only one who matter. That's a ridiculously unhealthy and honestly pretty sociopathic mindset. If implemented, it would overall deprive the person of strong participation in social life. No one respects someone who respects no one.

Even that aside, what's with this modern concept that words don't matter? Words are, I'd argue, the only things that do matter. Unless you have to deal with trauma, force can only affect your body. But words? Words are how we process the world, and how we learn most of the things about it. Words are how we communicate and coordinate. Words are our most important outside resource on our own virtues and flaws, and far more useful than the muddled results of introspection in most cases. Words might not (always) result in physical harm, but they change who we are. In a world devoid of words, you would be utterly unlike who you are now, and everything you hear that has any meaning at all affects your trajectory in some tiny way.

Even if you were to magically discard words without being affected, which I believe is impossible to do entirely, you'd become the sort of person who disregards words, meaning the sort of person who disregards the opinions of others. Again, if held in logical consistency, that's an unhealthy mindset that will leave you isolated and devoid of relationships of any type. Physical harm changes how we function, but words change who we are. Heck, even in cases of physical force, most of the time that comes as part of coercion or hatred of some sort, which all revolves around words and communication. Really only random acts of violence are excluded from that, and even in those, the perpetrator has been shaped at least partially by words into the sort of person who would commit random acts of violence.

And all of that is not to mention that this philosophy of "words can never hurt me" is itself communicated by words. You can't even talk about it without being affected by them.

This is totally unrelated, but using "pussies" as an insult really weirds me out in most cases. Most people who use it are straight men, who... presumably like the organ in question? So why's that an insult for them?

[sg-lux-2]

Generally, peoples opinions and words don't hurt me unless, it was like my family saying them then it cuts a little deeper. I believe its mostly the intent behind the words, when you call someone a pussy you are calling them soft. I don't mind being called a pussy, because like 50% of the population loves them. :D

just hin4 votes

he said sorry, let's get over it.. poor pants..

Macalla4 votes
  1. why does he need to go to scouting grounds and
  2. If he was not "politically correct", he should have been banned. Its the world we live in, their are rules and if you cannot realize dumb rap music which is toxic promoting bad things is NOT the norm in speech and behavior (or should not be) you should pay the consequences.
The Bad Touch6 votes

{quoted}

  1. why does he need to go to scouting grounds and
  2. If he was not "politically correct", he should have been banned. Its the world we live in, their are rules and if you cannot realize dumb rap music which is toxic promoting bad things is NOT the norm in speech and behavior (or should not be) you should pay the consequences.

Fuck political correctness. Does nothing but turn men into sheep. Grow a pair, speak your mind. If they ban you, move your business to a company that allows people to have freedom of speech.

Morgan le Fey4 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Bad Touch,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=WRdJZUYl,comment-id=00140000,timestamp=2017-11-10T12:27:40.417+0000)

Fuck political correctness. Does nothing but turn men into sheep. Grow a pair, speak your mind. If they ban you, move your business to a company that allows people to have freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech is a legal issue, not an interpersonal one. The moment you aren't dealing with the government, your speech is effectively free. Private businesses are not required to give you a forum to voice your opinions. The only thing freedom of speech means is "it is not illegal to say these things", which in the US at least means "my words aren't actively inciting either immediate violence or immediate and dangerous mass-panic".

kagepaladin3 votes
Kilonag2 votes

In comparison to what a whole lot of other pro-players have done this is ludicrous. Like Aphromoo explicitly said it on stream to teach HuHi curse words...

flaming roach1 votes

{quoted}

In comparison to what a whole lot of other pro-players have done this is ludicrous. Like Aphromoo explicitly said it on stream to teach HuHi curse words...

hes allowed to say it tho

Mcsquzzy2 votes

Its all about image, years ago pewdiepie was in Machinama and they had a big deal with Levi jeans(i think it was Levi) it was so big that they decided that they did not need to look for any other sponsors that year. They even told Levi execs that they had someone as popular on youtube as pewdiepie on their roster. Levi decided to do research on him, were appalled and pulled out of the deal. This crippled Machinima and lead to them redoing contracts with many of there current youtubers.

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