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LCL Gambit - Vaevictus Game Remade With Different Draft

Jewish Man··1 votes·774 views

Тoday was incident in Russian LCL. Тhere was a game Gambit vs Vaevictus and Vaevictus lost draft hardly and were losing(their botlane ziggs was 0-2 and was about to die third time right before pause). Vaevictus paused the game and asked for a remake cuz of connection problems. But when they remade game and both teams(gambit were blue side) made same bans and gambits made the same first pick and... Vaevictus changed their picks surprisingly and their bans in second phase and then won game. That was so unfair but Russian Riot said everything was fine. Russian Riot refered to the rule 9.4.4 : "Controlled Environment. Certain conditions may be preserved in the event of a restart of a game that has not reached GOR, including, without limitation, picks/bans or Summoner spells. If, however, a match has reached GOR then LCS officials shall not retain any settings." But 9.4.4 isn't a rule. It's an example for illustration purposes of rule 9.4. Rule 9.4 says "Examples are listed below for purposes of illustration only" It opens the door for teams to DDoS themselves if their opponent picks a better team comp. IMHO the only way you can allow a rematch is that if the DDoS happens after both teams have completed Champ select so you can force both teams to pick the same champs. I think Vaevictus should get tech lose or they have to remade this game another day with those pick/bans or its unfair

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Miror B2 votes

Yeah, LCL is probably the worst "offender" for breaking rito's sanctioned league rules (I should try and find the article, but apparently one of the teams tried build an all-korean roster with the idea that their company was "based" in korea allowing them to ignore import slot stuff). I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much, as the league itself is pretty terrible (the "Grand prize" is like $4,000, yeah, that little) and none of the teams have a realistic chance of winning a wild-card spot with how explosive the oceanic league is looking this year.

Jewish Man1 votes

Still competition supposed to be fair for both teams. Re-draft made it unfair.Rules and Riot has to protect all competitions from this happening.

Miror B1 votes

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Still competition supposed to be fair for both teams. Re-draft made it unfair.Rules and Riot has to protect all competitions from this happening.

Kinda, they should prevent this from happening. That being said, even if they don't I doubt anyone will notice. The league is small, has a history of being pretty bad, and I'm pretty sure barring albus nox hasn't had a team make it to worlds since its inception. Unless people start watching that instead of the thousands of twitch/youtube channels with more viewers, then I really doubt anyone will care.

BigBellBrute2 votes

Why couldn't they pause, have the guy leave, restart, and come back in? Seems completely unfair.

Jewish Man1 votes

It looks like riot asks teams if they are fine to remake and both teams agreed. But it's not clear if they agreed on redraft as well or its just riot didn't force them to make the same draft. That how it was: http://www.reddit.com/comments/5sa98h/_/dddnwoy?context=3

For me it's clear that this remake made a huge help to Vaevictis and they on redraft secured adc pick for themself and took ryze and olaf pick from gmb jungle(2 jungle bans in second phase). And Russian LCL is bo1 so teams usually prepare only 1 comp(especially gambit who announced their roster the same week LCL started and their mid and support came to their boot camp only 3 days before LCL day 1)

Miror B1 votes

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Why couldn't they pause, have the guy leave, restart, and come back in? Seems completely unfair.

Fun fact with that actually: while that did used to be a solution to game crashes before the new client (and was seen happening a lot in the challenger scenes, EU especially #milleniumcurse), from what I can understand doing so on the new one has a weird habit of unpausing the games at random. Not sure which clients they're using for this league, but if it's the newer one it could partially explain why.

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