FNC vs H2K: Death Timers OP, Towers UP

Laughing Fish·Apr 16, 2016·120 votes·5,296 views

A single ace 30 mins into the game, and FNC can just shove up the mid and take 5 towers, an inhibitor, and the Nexus.

Balance team be like: http://commentphotos.com/gallery/CommentPhotos.com_1391958779.jpg

35 Comments

Miror BApr 16, 201626 votes

Having it happen once could be "kinda" understandable. Having it happen twice, for the same team, in a 5 game series being viewed by tens of thousands of people? Fnatic didn't beat H2K, the people who randomly decided to tweak those death timers back in pre-season did. summoner 3

blessthekellenApr 17, 201610 votes

Well. FNC technically did beat H2K.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Monkey D LuffyApr 17, 20161 votes

Not wrong there.

DraqoneApr 16, 201620 votes

I was about to make the same thread.

If it takes 30 seconds to take down 5 turrets and a nexus there's something wrong with the turret balance.

As you said, it was 30 minutes in - the carries didn't have full builds, 3 items on each.

Have my upvote.

kaltenashesApr 16, 201619 votes

meddler said its a fair trade, you get a huge death timer but you win a fair prize... ta-da-da Homeguard for FREE!!

Meddler We did make death timers longer both to rewards kills more and compensate for Homeguard http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/bMq6YOlq-meddler-any-news-on-death-timer-changes become a universal and free effect post 20 minutes

too bad you lose more than 1/2 of your whole base while being dead and homeguards wont help you at all

besides death timers got nerfed from 30 to 55 mins of game... still feels the same, but they said they nerfed it

SkyBlade79Apr 18, 20161 votes

And the new homeguards are pretty underwhelming, anyways

KetiaXApr 18, 20161 votes

Can't use Homeguards when the team is dead until next season.

DJ S0NAApr 16, 201612 votes

Farm until 30 minutes, win a team fight, push mid with all turrets, win game

http://commentphotos.com/gallery/CommentPhotos.com_1391958779.jpg

Sniper 0Apr 17, 201612 votes

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/52857465.jpg

YCitizenSnipsYApr 16, 20164 votes

Probably shouldn't have gotten themselves aced like that when FNC had minions crashing against mid lane turret.

00110001Apr 17, 20162 votes

A perfectly rational answer, down-voted to hell...I expect nothing less from these boards.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

EthyreonApr 17, 20162 votes

Nope.

I didn't even watch the game but I'm pretty sure whatever happened it's the balance teams fault. I would know because everything that I don't like is automatically OP.

Kappa.

SkiasApr 17, 20167 votes

{quoted}

Nope.

I didn't even watch the game but I'm pretty sure whatever happened it's the balance teams fault. I would know because everything that I don't like is automatically OP.

Kappa.

Everyone that uses the Kappa meme, auto downvote. Shame on you. lol

EthyreonApr 17, 20161 votes

I was honestly afraid someone would agree with me so I felt the need to spell it out.

ElikainApr 17, 20161 votes

Once the boards decide to adopt a certain attitude and blame someone from Riot, if you go against the grain, you will never fare well. Not like you should care about upvotes or downvotes anywhere.

No one is denying that games end abruptly after 30 minutes off a single mistake, that's unfortunately how the game rolls for the moment but H2K should have not made such a mistake then.

DraqoneApr 17, 20164 votes

{quoted}

A perfectly rational answer, down-voted to hell...I expect nothing less from these boards.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Except FNC didn't have a huge wave of minions crashing against mid. Nor did they have the baron buff which would make it understandable.

Right now towers are so weak that pro players are forced to play incredibly cautious since any mistake starts a turret snowball. Makes for less interesting games.

YCitizenSnipsYApr 17, 20161 votes

They did have minions crashing. It was also a 5v0 push, literally the entire team pushing as one with no one to stop them.

Also yes the ace was H2K's fault. They over chased and Jankos didn't use Kindred ult until three were dead and the other two were almost dead. They deserved to lose that one.

Also pro players aren't forced to play cautious. Its like you don't even watch competitive and are just jumping on the circle jerk. Have you seen ROX, G2, EDG/RNG? None of these teams play passive and they are the top teams in their regions.

DraqoneApr 18, 20161 votes

{quoted}

They did have minions crashing. It was also a 5v0 push, literally the entire team pushing as one with no one to stop them.

Also yes the ace was H2K's fault. They over chased and Jankos didn't use Kindred ult until three were dead and the other two were almost dead. They deserved to lose that one.

Also pro players aren't forced to play cautious. Its like you don't even watch competitive and are just jumping on the circle jerk. Have you seen ROX, G2, EDG/RNG? None of these teams play passive and they are the top teams in their regions.

46 min 24 seconds, Odoame engages on Spirit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBpgImZCLAs&t=46m24s

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/Sacredfool/htook_1.png

This is the screen of the minimap when the fight started. FNC mid minion wave only just approached their own inhibitor. Now, it wasn't even a cannon minion wave, just a regular one.

Gnart Even CloseApr 17, 20161 votes

{quoted}

A perfectly rational answer, down-voted to hell...I expect nothing less from these boards.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

normally i would agree with you that the boards are irrational. but this is one point where you, sir, are the one at fault. there are serious gameplay issues if you can go from outer turrets to nexus in one ace. you should have to be much further in the game, or already have taken outer and inner turrets. think about it. it's a whole 6 objectives: outer mid turret, inner mid turret, mid inhib turret, 2 nexus towers, and the nexus. that's all from one lost teamfight. how is that fair 30 minutes into the game? now you could argue that the issue is either from weak towers, excessively long death timers, or even both. the point is that something is wrong, and something needs to change. "just don't die" may be good advice for bronze players, but is certainly not appropriate for LCS players who are actually somewhat good at the game

invisiblecat1Apr 17, 20163 votes

See Riot even Laughing Fish thinks this

The DeckownerApr 16, 20162 votes

I just made the same thread. Towers op no minion and still destroy all mid towers and nexus.

magic poleApr 17, 20162 votes

eh shit is scripted

they were touting fnc all fucking match.

wow fnc is the crowd favorites!

wow! oh look fanatic almost lost,,,oh shit the huge comeback fnc wins!!11!!

haha the hype HOLY SHIT OUTPLAYED

arc95Apr 17, 20162 votes

upvote for Mr. Deeds...

edit: and the post too

MisterHealYoGirlApr 16, 20161 votes

Buffs to turrets were announced weeks ago.

SkiasApr 17, 20164 votes

{quoted}

Buffs to turrets were announced weeks ago.

Slight increase to turret fire speed and damage. Still melts like a wet piece of shit lol

SkiasApr 17, 20165 votes

{quoted}

Buffs to turrets were announced weeks ago.

It's not durability, its just a slight ramp increase. Totally not helpful.

SanKakUApr 17, 20161 votes

I doubt people would be crying about this if Revive were still a Summoner Spell.

SnowplosionApr 17, 20161 votes

This was the patch before deaths timers were reduced in the mid-late game.

Vistha KaiApr 17, 20161 votes

This kind of change wouldn't help them, since they didn't even get into that time-frame.

KnalxzApr 17, 20161 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sen8Tn8CBA4

Urgot x BDSMApr 17, 20161 votes

It wasn't just "a single ace" it was a 5 to 0 ace, which should lead to a win in my book

Champion SkinApr 18, 20161 votes

Well actually that depends a lot

Like teams with more ADC or mages with good tower damage will obviously be able to push faster Which means that teams with more tanks or other low tower damage champions will probably not have enough damage to finish the game even with a 5 for 0 ace (if the outer turrets still stand)

Also losing the support usually doesn't matter much as they usually arent good at pushing towers And the position of the minion waves also matter

Fenikkusu1Apr 17, 20161 votes

Or you could be CLG and just spilt push all game. I'm gonna start going Top lane and just building zz and Banner and embrace my inner CLG player and win from split pushes, who knows, maybe CLG will ask me to join :D.