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Crowds and LCS

Pwnies··7 votes·1,624 views

So, just finished watching the FlyQuest Echo Fox game. The crowd was literally yelling Moon every time he was attempting to gank or flank. How much can the players hear of the crowd? I have seen things saying they can and they cant? Why don't we have soundproof booths for the LCS?

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Rayject3 votes

Who needs pink wards when you have obnoxious crowds?

LXII3 votes

Was actually wondering this same thing. Korea has the booths and I always wondered why until today. When the Ashe randomly fired a volley behind her as Moon was closing in I knew something was up. I'm sure their headphones cancel out some if not most of the sound, but it can't be 100%.

Miror B3 votes

Will seperate this into two parts:

Korea/China actually have the "soundproof booths" for players, but not because of what you think. Apparently in the early stages of those leagues, some teams would actively try to cheat via special "codewords" (like if someone in the crowd yelled "banana", it could mean that the enemy team is doing baron). The booths were brought in as a countermeasure, and has since served the region quite well.

As for how well the players can hear the crowd, it really depends. I have heard from a few retired players that apparently with the headsets/in game sounds, hearing the audience during LCS/"regional" games can be relatively hard. During pauses or breaks though, the audience can apparently be heard so well that the players can hear what people are saying in the 4-5th row.

Pwnies2 votes

The guy yelling Moon was at times louder than the casters on stream. There were multiple times Ashe turned around and casted Volley before vision, after the crowd was yelling Moon. Just makes me wonder.

I feel like we will never get soundproof booths due to the NA sports structure even though it's needed. For instance, in any competitive sport (football, soccer, basketball, etc) crowds cheer after the play has already happened. In League, one of the advantages is stealth, and if any part of that is compromised it could literally cost you the game.

Miror B2 votes

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The guy yelling Moon was at times louder than the casters on stream. There were multiple times Ashe turned around and casted Volley before vision, after the crowd was yelling Moon. Just makes me wonder.

I feel like we will never get soundproof booths due to the NA sports structure even though it's needed. For instance, in any competitive sport (football, soccer, basketball, etc) crowds cheer after the play has already happened. In League, one of the advantages is stealth, and if any part of that is compromised it could literally cost you the game.

The big problem with implimenting something like this is that it'd cost a lot of $ to do so (according to a construction worker buddy of mine, even making a soundproof booth the size of a porta-potty is like $5k) and it'd prevent the LCS from accomplishing what it wants to do. Ask anybody with an IQ what makes the LCS cash, and they'll tell you that it's not the actual play (koreans are always gonna win worlds) but rather the ability to celebritize the players.

Pwnies1 votes

Agree with this. Just hoping something is implemented that helps. And I think the money investment is nothing for League.

HeeroTX1 votes

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For instance, in any competitive sport (football, soccer, basketball, etc) crowds cheer after the play has already happened.

While it is not at all common, there was a story before he retired of how Peyton Manning would react to defensive pressure on his "blind side" based on crowd noise. I agree that it gives a definite advantage to the team the crowd favors, but it isn't "unprecedented".

Is the actual game not on at least some bit of delay? I figured they were on 5 secs delay or something, because the casters themselves are giving info all the time and I just assumed that the audience could hear that in the hall.

Pwnies2 votes

Well I saw that multiple pros have stated they can hear the crowds, so this makes me pretty pissed. I'm a c9 / flyquest fanboy.

Not really upset too much because its spring, but seriously how do we not have soundproof booths yet? Rito pls.

Also glad to see my boy swain in game 2.

Orangesilk2 votes

Even better, make the screens show a 2-min difference, that way if the crowd tries to say anything, it's too late.

Pwnies2 votes

I would much prefer booths over this, although this could be a fix. It wouldn't affect viewers in anyway that I can think I suppose.

Edit: Except when the game is over and we're still watching for 2 minutes while the players get up.

Darth Pixy Misa2 votes

Even though the headphones cancel out a lot of the noise, I think there is a advantage if someone elects to only have their headset half way on one ear. THis way they can hear the crowd and have a warning that there is a flank danger.

TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

Apparently not much/at all. Both teams confirmed that they didn't hear the MOOOOOOOOOOON stuff during Game 3.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5qwnxc/crowd_trying_to_cheat_in_ef_vs_fq/dd2q6pd/

Pwnies1 votes

Good to know, but I would still prefer booths :) Like I said, not too mad because it's Spring. Also the eve picks. >.>

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