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Competitive Ruling: C9T Yusui

Riot··1 votes·34,017 views

Player: David “Yusui” Bloomquist
Region: North America
Date of Ruling: 6/12/15
Subject: Penalty; Violation of CS Ruleset

 

Facts

 

In March 2014, a routine sweep of botting and purchased accounts led to the permanent suspension of over a dozen accounts under Yusui's control.  He received a direct warning by Player Support on March 21 that this was a severe violation of the Terms of Service and was not allowed.

 

Another routine sweep was conducted in April 2015 - while Yusui was suspended from competitive play due to the C9T Ringing ruling - which found that he had continued purchasing accounts, despite the prior warning and account suspensions.  The second investigation resulted in the permanent suspension of several dozen additional accounts under Yusui’s ownership.

 

As part of the normal vetting process for all Challenger Players, it was discovered that Yusui has continued purchasing botted accounts, with over a dozen new accounts purchased since April.  Per normal Player Support policy, all of his purchased accounts have been permanently banned, though the accounts he leveled himself remain unbanned.

 

To clarify, our investigation has not linked Yusui or any of his accounts to Elo Boosting or further inappropriate activity.

 

Relevent Rules

 

9.2.7 Player Behavior Investigation

 

If CS or Riot determines that a Team or Team Member has violated the Summoner’s Code, the LoL Terms of Service, or other rules of LoL, CS officials may assign penalties at their sole discretion.

 

Ruling

 

Yusui has violated Section 9.2.7 of the CS ruleset and is subject to penalties.

 

Competition Penalties

 

Yusui is suspended from all Riot-affiliated League of Legends competition for a duration of four (4) competitive weeks, counting the week of the NA CS Qualifier Finals.  For the avoidance of doubt, Yusui will be eligible for NA CS Week 2 / NA LCS Week 7.

 

Context

As the scope of our normal LCS and Challenger Series player vetting continues to grow, Pros and Challengers will continue held to a higher standard in all regards of their behavior.  Botting accounts is a serious detriment to the player experience, particularly at low levels.  During the leveling process, a single botted account can negatively affect hundreds or even thousands of new players.  The purchasing of these accounts directly sustains the practice of botting.  In addition, Yusui’s willingness to continue violating the Terms of Service, despite repeated warnings and an unrelated competitive suspension, informs the severity of this ruling.

44 Comments

36815044_DEL21 votes

Multiple warnings results in a 4 week ban? Didn't know Riot employed the US justice system to hand out punishments. Pansy ass punishments. Like a 4 week ban is going to result in ANY change.

Xemnas3 votes

They banned all his accounts, accounts he has had since the beginning, accounts he has had spent lots of money on. How is that a light punishment?

Ulysses S12 votes

though the accounts he leveled himself remain unbanned.

He still gets to stream, play ladder, and in most ways play competitively after just a few weeks. He should just have been banned from this whole split and any further account purchasing result in permanent suspension.

Magic Mo1 votes

It's a little rich of you to say "he should be permanently suspended from League of Legends." Not only is that harsh (granted not very, considering this guy has been banned several times), but it's impossible to enforce.

Sure, they can disable his account and make sure he never competes in League, but it's as simple as changing your IP address using software or moving out and not showing your face on stream under a new name.

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

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It's a little rich of you to say "he should be permanently suspended from League of Legends." Not only is that harsh (granted not very, considering this guy has been banned several times), but it's impossible to enforce.

Sure, they can disable his account and make sure he never competes in League, but it's as simple as changing your IP address using software or moving out and not showing your face on stream under a new name.

No because you forgot the quality of "whats in a name'? If he streams under a new name and nobody knows it then he won't have many followers will he?...

Furthermore he can get banned from LCS... which is enough no matter.

Magic Mo1 votes

No because you forgot the quality of "whats in a name'? If he streams under a new name and nobody knows it then he won't have many followers will he?...

Incorrect. C9 Incarnation is living proof of this. While he was banned, he kept several accounts in Challenger and people watched his stream. Yes, not as many, but they did. People will watch you even if you don't speak if you're in Challenger.

Furthermore he can get banned from LCS... which is enough no matter.

The OP I was replying to didn't specify whether from LCS or from the game, but I'll put my bets on the latter. And yeah, a permaban from competitive is possible to enforce. Not one from League of Legends, though.

Dieinpeace12 votes

This does feel really weak to me. This should have been at least a year ban. I also don't see how he couldn't have been elo boosting with over dozens accounts under his name. But i will trust riot investigation.

warpedmind1 votes

again. this is just the competitive ruling. like any other ruling posted on lolesports. are you people really that stupid to post something like this below every competitive ruling?

RiSinGSenJi181 votes

You have to remember, as far as the rulings I have seen, permabans are only handed down for multiple serious offenses (having abnormal toxic behavior and DDoSing or drophacking at the same time, or more offenses). While purchasing accounts is serious, he wasn't using other said accounts for toxic behavior or another offense tied to buying said account. Also, even though his original unpaid for accounts remain, he probably spent a considerable amount of money on the ones he purchased, so it still hits heavy. I have not read the C9T Ringing Ruling, but if his participation in it was serious, they probably would have permabanned his accounts and him from competition after this violation of conduct. As added punishment, he is suspended during the most important part of his season, the NA CS Qualifier Finals, so the punishment wasn't harsh, but it definitely wasn't light as well.

laxfreak3151 votes

C9T has to qualify for the CS without him. That's a huge punishment

Wulfy15 votes

light punishment with multiple warnings is light.

Wickedfates8 votes

continue with slaps on the wrists and showing the community that even when you break the rules you can keep on playing and breaking the rules like nothing ever happened

fat dog7 votes

is there any reason why anyone would want to buy over a dozen botted accounts?? even after being caught before??

Retillin1 votes

To sell them after leveling them to Plat/Gold/ect...

Timefiller6 votes

Why not just let people buy accounts from the shop, or maybe something like different "characters" under one account that you can switch between? Sort of like an MMO.

Legendary Silver4 votes

Something needs to be done about the leveling system, no doubt. Not just for the sake of the playerbase - but also for the sustainability of the game. Leveling is a horrible experience currently. Not a good way to attract new and more players.

I'm glad they only banned the botted accounts - the article that came out claiming they were going to ban all his accounts was a ridiculous potential punishment.

Saintshing3 votes

Why exactly do you need more than one accounts unless your main has been banned or you want to stomp low elo?

If you want to practice new champs, you can play normals. Some people may say they want to play with lower elo friends and dont want their friends get stomped but if you play at a lower mmr smurf, it is unfair to the enemy team.

If you are a one trick pony like boxbox and have to dodge every time you dont get your main champ, I don't think that is a legit reason. Just learn other champs. If you cant play other champs, it just means your overall skill level is not good enough for that elo.

Some people may say high challengers have super long queue time so they need smurfs. But if you look at korean soloq(or read pobelter AMA), their challengers dont have long queue time because there are enough high elo players who are regularly playing on their mains. If all the challenger players only play on smurfs, it only make the queue time for high elo players even longer.

The mmr system is made so that people are matched to players of the same skill level and the chance of winning is even for both sides. Allowing people to play on smurfs basically fk up the match making system. If riot lets people to link their smurfs to their mains so both have the same mmr, I don't see why you will need a smurf.

Tobde3 votes

Once you reach a certain mmr queue times tend to get longer. That's probably the resoning behind smurfing for some of the highest rated players in challanger. I do not know if that would apply for David “Yusui” Bloomquist, but one should never be quick to judge. Plus i severely doubt that star players like: TSM Wildturtle, FNC Rekkles, CLG Doublelift et cetera have the time to lvl up accounts and stay in shape for lcs. So how do they get their smurfs?

TSM IMD2 votes

Being the one that just said "one should never be quick to judge," then you indirectly accuse multiple top tier players of buying accounts... Here's your answer, Riot provides these accounts to the LCS players, fully unlocked with everything they need. Should they do the same for the CS players of there's? Definitely, but that doesn't change the fact you accused LCS players of buying accounts with no actual proof nor any effort to look into it(it's easily found information).

Secondly, the reason the queue times tend to be longer, is for the exact reason of top tier players being on smurfs, making it harder for matchmaking to find other Challenger/Master players, while they're off power ranking their smurfs to the equivalent rank of their mains. Smurfing causes a very large amount of problems, both for high level play and low level play, yet you didn't seem to want to put any effort into looking up any of this information, it's quite pitiful.

C9 Sora7 votes

A legit reason to have secondary accounts is the more accounts you get into challenger the more consistent people will see you. Faker has 3 acc in challenger of Korea hes known for that and other general stuff

GrumpyButtercup2 votes

This pseudo logic is astounding. Finding out if someone is buying accounts is easy? You can look it up? Link me if this is true because I know that you cannot.

He does not accuse anyone but directs a question to his audience. How does someone get a smurf if they do not have the time to level up an account? There was no accusation, and he prefaced it with his opinion which invalidates any accusations if there were any to be had.

Now you bring up the argument that smurfing is a victim based crime, that problems are occurring because people are smurfing. What exactly are these problems? A game that's not so fun to play for one team? Do you really need a smurf to be present for that to happen? Also with the provisions made to the top of the ladder to cut back on the smurfing problem there has been a difference (reference average queue times in challenger streams from S3 to S5). They have to play games on their mains to keep them up there.

Let's bring up the counterpoint to your logic now. If League of Legends is supposed to be fun but you make it your job, at what point does it stop being fun? Well probably about the time when you have to incessantly grind in tryhard mode for hours on end. Many members of the community play League to unwind and have fun with friends, how come LCS players cannot also enjoy the game casually? Is this a right that they forfeit upon going professional? Is this somewhere in the LCS rulebook? If an LCS player wants to play a relaxed game, then his main account is not the best one. Don't try to tack on the "play normals" argument, because that would be just as bad as smurfing anyways.

Not to mention the type of focus you receive on your high profile account.

BroodAbyss2 votes

Seems completely logical.

Superior Saint5 votes

Holy crap that's a really harsh punishm... ResidentSleeper

Brandakeran5 votes

Better fine CLG

TrollFan014 votes

Yusui got off lucky

C9 Sora4 votes

I'll Sub in Yusui :^) dw

Keiser 4 votes

Usually I agree with these Competitive Rulings and their level of severity, but this one is way too weak for a player who has been Suspended before and was given multiple chances to stop using bot-leveled accounts. That is a direct statement towards Riot's rules. Unless riot is taking into account that the rule is extremely idiotic and noone has the time to level all those accounts and should implement a new smurfing system, this ruling is way lighter than it should be.

Yusan2 votes

wtf

Dardios2 votes

Should have permabanned him. Yusui is a talented player and I am a huge C9 fan, but last I checked it's 3 strikes you're out!

Sima2 votes

Thanks for watching out for the little guys Riot! summoner 1

TSM SuperTramp2 votes

Honestly you guys are ridiculous, I see multiple freaking people furious in these comments and it has me over here wondering.... why the fuck are you concerned about this?? and if you are wouldn't it be more understanding to be cheering for him not to be banned because all the guy is doing is buying an account to use for solo q (DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS) No its not to smurf and stomp shitty players no semi/professional player has any fun doing that shit they have been doing it for 3-4 years. No this guy is buying an account so he can quickly get back to his competition level he needs to be there because this is how he trains this is how he gets better and idk the last time you level an account straight to level 30 its bullshit I understand if its your first time going to 30 thats fine but after that there needs to be a faster way to do this. No pro/semi pro player should have to spend hours upon hours of bullshit just to play at his level of competition all of you Hive minded retards need to think about this situation completely not just scream BAN! HIM!

Sleypnyr1 votes

Your right, that's how I view it. If I could I'd avoid the levelling on my smurf accounts too, its pretty ridiculous to level an account all the way up. IN Yusui's case its probably to be able to actually play the game, instead of having to sit in 40 minutes queue's. Yeah, he deserved a punishment for ignoring them telling him not too, but that's basically what it is. They said no, he ignored them and he got punished for it. Isn't deserving of a permanent ban or anything.

Retillin2 votes

Not getting dozens of accounts. If it were 2 or 3 he bought, I don't think it'd be a big deal. But dozens? There is more going on than just avoiding 40 min ques.

GrumpyButtercup1 votes

Unless it is to keep a low profile. Not all actions that seem nefarious are indeed nefarious. If he was doing something worse than Rito probably would've found out about it during their sweeps and subsequently increased the severity of the punishment.

Retillin1 votes

Why would someone need 24+ accounts then? (it's at least 24 if it's "dozens of accounts") Someone can get a low profile with 5-6 accounts. But 24+? There is more going on there.

Minrog2 votes

He is a pro player, he doesn't need to buy rank or waste time rolling bronze players.

He probably was using these accounts so he could devise new tactics on different champions without anyone knowing what he was doing. It's the only thing that makes sense to me, anyway.

Retillin2 votes

~In March 2014, a routine sweep of botting and purchased accounts led to the permanent suspension of over a dozen accounts under Yusui's control. He received a direct warning by Player Support on March 21 that this was a severe violation of the Terms of Service and was not allowed.

Another routine sweep was conducted in April 2015 - while Yusui was suspended from competitive play due to the C9T Ringing ruling - which found that he had continued purchasing accounts, despite the prior warning and account suspensions. The second investigation resulted in the permanent suspension of several dozen additional accounts under Yusui’s ownership.

As part of the normal vetting process for all Challenger Players, it was discovered that Yusui has continued purchasing botted accounts, with over a dozen new accounts purchased since April. Per normal Player Support policy, all of his purchased accounts have been permanently banned, though the accounts he leveled himself remain unbanned.

To clarify, our investigation has not linked Yusui or any of his accounts to Elo Boosting or further inappropriate activity.~

So he bought dozens of accounts at a time, multiple times. Even doing it AFTER he was warned not to. All of this was AFTER he partook of a "ringing" of a game. (One of his team members did not have the tourny realm acount up to date, instead of using the sub on the roster they added another person to play this. Yusui was on the call so he knew without a doubt this was not the teams sub.)

How can Riot claim to claim to care about cheating here and then allow someone with a HISTORY of breaking the rules to have only a 4 week ban?

Moleste1 votes

glory to the Sin dorei

Taèyeon1 votes

I seriously hope he learned his lesson

DieLikeTheRest1 votes

I find this ruling very unfair for some other permabanned players like XJ9. This guy repeated his toxic behaviour twice and he doesnt even get a permaban, just a personal penaltie: 4 competitive weeks suspension. Clap clap!! XJ9 has been suspended for more than 2 years because of a "death threath". Great job riot, anyone can lose his control sometime against a person who dislikes you. However you overrated that fact in order to "give example" and never gave that player a real chance to come back to the game and...wait wait! hes not a pro!!! Okaaay I forgot that fact, It doesnt matter if he keeps permabanned since he doenst bring money to the organization so who cares, he's a dick.... PLEASE STOP BEING S HYPOCRITE and give him a chance to come back, there is a little part of the community (like me) who followed that player for some seasons, learned a lot and became ilusionated with his play style but now we can't enjoy his streams (0 toxicity streams btw) since some rioter hates him. At least use the same punishment criteria with every player. Btw, Riot Lyte's trial was a joke...where is the real chance to come back and get a better player/person??? and where is the XJ9 report??? Does it exist? or that permaban decition was took by an angry rioter?

GrumpyButtercup1 votes

Comparing a death threat to purchasing accounts. Victim crime vs victimless.

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