Mordekaiser at worlds spoil the game!!

Yunko224·Oct 10, 2015·14 votes·1,932 views

Mordekaiser so damn broken at worlds. it totally kill the mood of the match when a team without ADC

30 Comments

Malicious MetalOct 10, 201514 votes

Who even likes the new Morde? Former mains hate him Pros do too And even the LCS audience?

Hell, this really is a fail on all levels :P

Earl EulrichOct 10, 20155 votes

dunno, the last rework that had been really good was Sion, everything since then just seems too flashy yet again. They should just revert the changes and start anew when they have more time.

Malicious MetalOct 10, 20158 votes

Yeah #SionRework4Morde

He is a problem that needs to be tackled asap. Hell, there are no winners with this rework :S

TDA VanessaOct 10, 20151 votes

And Riot is planning "something big" for adcs now, I wonder what will happen.

xFrostKnightxOct 10, 20151 votes

Changing build path for BT and IE. BorK will be reworked (active) and might lose life steal. Zephyr will also be reworked hopefully to have a build path that allows a choice between Hurricane and Zephyr. (Zephyr may cost more or be nerfed a bit) And hopefully some items which reduce healing on the affected target (an active similar to the passive of a previously removed item)

Obviously kit changes but it's more difficult to speculate that.

GorgannanOct 10, 20151 votes

Yeah, I recall something about any changes to actual kits would be similar to the jg update: 3 or 4 champions max.

Dextix LTOct 10, 20152 votes

Well yea, because Sion rework wasnt corrupted by the touch of CertainlyT, thats why it was good.

GorgannanOct 10, 20152 votes

Darius is overtuned, but his rework is much better than before.

Fiora's Q is retarded, but other than that, her rework is nice.

And wait... I thought GP was a resounding success.

Earl EulrichOct 10, 20151 votes

Darius: the old one rewarded you for getting into a good position asap, the new one rather punishes the opponent for either lackluster focus/kiting or handing you a snowball Fiora: while the rework could be nice, most of her dmg atm is still in right-clicking the opponent. If they´d force her to play around her passive it would be way more interessting for both the opponent and herself. GP: just waay to save with AoE-clear+extra gold+global ult and his absurd lategame when only 1 AoE-crit can win you the game. There´s a reason that guy is close to a 100%banrate in pro-play. Not to mention that he had been played in any role prior to his rework, now he´s just there to farm and crit.

GorgannanOct 10, 20151 votes

He could be played in any lane. He couldn't be played in any role. He could go tanky, AD, or crit, but he did the same thing either way. Try to kill the squishies.

Everything you said about Darius could be swapped to the other iteration. New Darius is fun, and can be outplayed more than just "don't go near him."

He's OP right now, but his kit is much better.

Earl EulrichOct 10, 20151 votes

He could go tanky, AD, or crit, but he did the same thing either way. Try to kill the squishies.

that´s just wrong, with bruiser GP you mostly tried to keep the opponent backline busy so your backline could do work, with support GP you peeled for your carry (and with AP-GP you hped that a cannon barrage would just kill everything)...

Everything you said about Darius could be swapped to the other iteration. New Darius is fun, and can be outplayed more than just "don't go near him."

i loved playing the old one, i really don´t like the new one. the old one you picked because he could shut down certain matchups - the new one you pick because he´ll shut down everything if your opponent isn´t paying attention. that´s just a fundamental change of character. the counterplay is still the same, it´s about focusing him down or kiting him forever - only that you´re punsihed a lot harder ifyou donßt do that and he´s punished a lot harder if he canßt stick for long enough. It´s like before, just more extreme, more binary...the changes didn´t help at all.

HentRexOct 10, 20151 votes

I liked where they went with him I just think they made everything to strong. by a mile

Count ZubatOct 10, 20155 votes

I wonder: was juggernaut update even needed? Was that Darius rework necessary? Or Morde rework? Let's recap patch 5.16. 4 champions were updated:

Skarner, being probably the most balanced juggernaut of the 4 (after hot fix nerf)
Garen, who was nerfed so Rito could push into his kit a percentage true damage.
Darius, who was unnecessarily buffed in the hotfix to the level of brokiness. And finally, Mordekaiser, who is just complete mess, super toxic, binary rework overloaded with unfair, broken mechanics. Also, Deadman's Plate was added. For me, this is one of the reasons why some of the juggernauts are broken. It gives mobility to champs that are supposed to be immobile. That makes sense, I guess. Did anyone asked for these reworks? No. Is anybody really happy about them? I doubt. Why these reworks were made? Fuck knows.

At the same time, the community is waiting for Poppy rework. Yorick rework. Taric rework. These are the champs who are in need of rework.

GorgannanOct 10, 20152 votes

Everyone asked for Darius.

Count ZubatOct 10, 20151 votes

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Everyone asked for Darius.

Ok, Darius was the one who needed some work, but he was balanced after release, just overshadowed by overbuffed at the time Skarner, he didn't need a hot fix buff, maybe slight buff in next patch, but no such a drastic number changes. The bug fix buffs made him broken. But, other than Darius, nobody asked for any of these reworks. There were small posts asking for a little Mord buffs after DFG removal, nothing else. Skarner was deemed completely balanced. Nobody was complaining about Garen being UP (at least his rework was handled really well, the dialog between RiotRepertoir and community was fantastic). Completely unneeded reworks. The only thing patch 5.16 brought are overbuffed Darius and completely broken and toxic Mordekaiser. Imo, it was the worst patch in season 5.

GorgannanOct 10, 20152 votes

Oh I agree. I mean, yeah people wanted Mord rework, literally everyone, but no one asked for this.

XemeronOct 10, 20152 votes

If its not Mordekaiser, its Darius. If its not Darius, it Fiora.

Seriously, these last reworks are so dumb, you have to ask what the hell RIOT was thinking. Are they really so used to giving everyone super mobility, that the second they cant do that they dont know what to do any more?

AnidanOct 10, 20151 votes

In fairness, Fiora's true damage needs toned down and she'll be much better. Her rework isn't as inherently toxic as all hell as Mordekaiser's (she even has the board's recently proposed nerf idea for Riven already, where if she dashes and doesn't hit an enemy, the CD of her dash is greatly increased in comparison).

Now I'm waiting for literally everything Fiora has to be knocked down before her true damage is even considered. As someone who greatly enjoys the new Fiora, scaling %max hp true damage is a pretty goddamn crazy idea, and a bad one in general so I'd rather it get tuned down a lot or changed to some other method of damage and then take a look at the rest of her kit when she isn't able to pop tanks and squishies alike.

VerxintOct 11, 20151 votes

Yeah I agree, the % true damage just scales way too fucking hard. Her lategame comes online too early as a result and she deletes people with just 2 ult vitals most of the time.

But like you said they're going to destroy everything else before they realize that getting 12% max HP true damage procs with just 3 offensive items is a bit fucking stupid.

Earl EulrichOct 10, 20151 votes

well, the LGD comp would be fine to stall it out and beat him late - if they hadn´t missplayed the early so hard. They really need to bench TBQ i guess.

TheNameIsJohnnyOct 10, 20151 votes

Mord remains me of prenerf kass....Riot should FIRE their balance team and hire people that understand the game. The balance in this game is utterly ridiculous . Take a page from DOTA 2 please.

xFrostKnightxOct 10, 20151 votes

Dora: Buff all the champions into OP broken so that the same 4 champions (who win 99% of games) are played and people will quit if those are not in their team.

Get first kill it and you pretty much win game because of how much of a gap it will create in strength.

Have items which 200% counter champions, 0 skill needed to shut a champion down. All you need is 1-2 items.

DOTA might as well delete every single champion besides the top 6. There are champions (a lot of them) who are so weak, even with a lead they do almost 0 dmg.

AnidanOct 11, 20151 votes

As someone who actually plays dota: The fuck are you talking about? A few might have a statistical advantage, but that's true in literally every competitive game. Almost everything you said applies to League as well if you want to be that level of pessimistic about it. The only thing that doesn't apply is the bit about items, because items are purposely stronger in DotA, so they're useful if you're ahead or behind, instead of the catch-up game you have to play in League since carry items are extremely gold efficient, whereas in DotA they aren't.

Axis the DragonOct 11, 20151 votes

About 65 Heroes were picked at DotA The International 2015, with 30 Heroes being picked at least 5 times

That's pretty diverse, my dude

Axis the DragonOct 10, 20152 votes

Ehh. If they balanced like DotA, every single Champion would be Juggernaut levels of broken. "Balance in imbalance", as they say.

If everything is overloaded, nothing is overloaded. xD

I mean, they could do it, but it'd take some time getting used to.

VerxintOct 11, 20151 votes

Also if they balanced like DotA changes would be months apart.

To be honest, that might be a good thing. When you have to live with something being OP for months, people get in the habit of finding its counters rather than just bitching on the forums.

GorgannanOct 10, 20151 votes

Mord's rework has nothing to do with the balance team.

Earl EulrichOct 10, 20151 votes

just so that Dota really is not a good example of balance at all (just rewatch last worlds, that´s basically 20champs used for all matches from semis onwards, and it would be less if they only had 3bans per side).

Only Play DariusOct 10, 20151 votes

If seeing mord hit someone for 80% of their HP in one swing under their own turret while his shield continuously recharges and soaks damage while a GODDAMN GHOST DRAGON floats around the battlefield which once killed allows mord to ult the enemy ADC and turn the fight into a 6v4 slaughterfest isn't fun to watch then I don't know what's wrong with you.

So much more fun to watch than seeing yet another ADC right click someone to death.