ALL OF THE EU AND NA LCS TEAMS

Isedelica·Feb 3, 2017·4 votes·632 views

they are all playing horrible this year they all look like crap honestly I think the roster changes where to big 'switching 1 person is fine but switching the WHOLE ROSTER of almost ever team was a stupid idea they all look like crap

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GeminiRuneFeb 3, 20173 votes

That's your opinion. But note it's also only been 2 weeks going into the 3rd. Anyone can say "oh they all suck" now but what about the rest of the split or season? And if you're one of those fans who fixates and worships on regions like China or Korea, not many teams are standing out there either. If you want me to explain, then by all means I will.

Miror BFeb 3, 20171 votes

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That's your opinion. But note it's also only been 2 weeks going into the 3rd. Anyone can say "oh they all suck" now but what about the rest of the split or season? And if you're one of those fans who fixates and worships on regions like China or Korea, not many teams are standing out there either. If you want me to explain, then by all means I will.

The big problem in general has to do with the focus on "juggernaut teams". Look at all the regions a year ago, and the talent level was spread across pretty decently with teams like IMT/CLG/TSM/C9 being considered "top-tier" for the entire year in NA and G2/H2K for the entire year in EU. Look at it now, and the talent level has shifted quite massively. C9 is unequivocally the only "S-tier" NA team, G2 is the only "S-tier" EU team, and the rest of the ones in that region have clear flaws that make them hard to really believe in when it comes to making worlds/MSI. I'd argue LCK is a bit more diverse as at least you can "kinda" suggest that there are 4 tiers there (SKT, 3 of the other teams with former rox members, KDM/SSG, the rest of the teams), the west is definitely in a weird state right now though with all the predictable stuff that's happening.

Earl EulrichFeb 3, 20171 votes

ah well, c9/h2k/g2/splyce look alright, UoL look pretty great that early in the season and same can be said for flyquest (meaning a lot better than expected).

and all those teams still have more than half a year to grow left till worlds...really early to call them out.

III BAKURYU III Feb 4, 20171 votes

It has only been 3 weeks so far into the split so teams are going to look "horrible" for a number of reasons.

It's a long season( spring and summer)

I'm not saying the spring split doesn't matter oppose to say 2/3 years ago where the spring split was 100% useless for Worlds etc when it was only the summer split that actually mattered while the spring splits teams are more relaxed. Teams are just trying to find their niche and groove in which each spring split that happens, it's not until the summer where you truly see the more strategic teams.

Roster moves and changes.

Each team for the most part has had a roster change and it takes time for players to gain synergy with each other. Just give them time.

It's the Kill or be killed meta

This split/Meta makes it look like players and teams are bad and have 0 macro and micro play because of how much cc/roots/stuns/slows etc each meta champion has nowadays and how easy it is to die. You get caught once by a champion with any of those abilities and you're dead or 90% of your hp is gone, so you can't really make too many objective or smart calls.

Has teams look garbage for the most part honestly no, at least I don't think so. I think the talent/skill from the best teams all the way to the lower tier teams isn't a huge gap like in the past. NA it was nothing but TSM and C9 for like 5 splits in a row until recently with CLG in the past 3 splits now becoming a team tier org/team as well as adding in Flyquest being heard, Phoenix One becoming a top team. For EU it was nothing but Fnatic for 6-7 splits with Alliance winning 1 split and vanishing as well as SK just being the 3rd place winner each split until a year or so where it was H2K that only got the 3rd place over and over again.

Overall Cloud 9/ G2 Esports/ Team Solomid/ Phoenix One/ H2K are the most hyped top tier teams just because of either talent or just their history for example would be predicting the NE Patriots aren't going to be in the playoffs next year like you have to see it to believe it and C9/TSM/G2/H2K have proven to stay at the top for numerous splits.

Misfits/Splyce/Immortals/Envyus - Are still young teams that will improve but they only need time so at times so far they do look "meh"

FlyQuest/Echo Fox/ Fnatic will have their ups and downs but they have decent shotcalling so while they do have bad plays given more time(word of the day) they will only improve and have that strategic style in the future.

Giants/Roccat/Liquid - Honestly so far they are "bad" no question about that.

Other teams such as Vitality/Dignitas/CLG do have 1-2 small problems but it can be easily fixed so no jumping off ship or SOS just yet.

Origen - C'mon they got neutered.

IsedelicaFeb 4, 20171 votes

i think there all crap cause of the roster changes some of these teams had a good roster they switched now there playing like crap there stupid cause I don't care if the person is faker they make mistakes there human

they change rosters so much it's stupid

III BAKURYU III Feb 4, 20172 votes

Dignitas - Made roster changes from Ray to Ssumday and while it's not paying off yet it's an easy choice as Ssumday is an overall better player than Ray. Same thing goes about Shrimp and Chaser.

TSM - D-Lift pretty much took a small retirement so they had no choice but to make a roster change there. CLG - Kept the same lineup.

Echo Fox - Upgraded from KFO, Hard, Kez and BIg to Looper, Akaadian, and Gate so all upgrades as EF could only win 1 game series all last split but they already doubled that in just week 3. 1-17 last year - 2-2 this year

Immortals - The owner of IMT stated that " He would allow his team to find teams if they want" Huni left for SKT which was a better choice but for the most part IMT had no choice but to make roster moves as everyone but Pobelter left the team.

P1 - Again last split P1 was pretty much a garbage team that had 1 good game series and they won it(TSM) because of just snowballing it. Switching from Slooshi, Mash and Gate to Ryu, Arrow and Adrian is pretty much was a better choice yet again. 5-13 last year - 4-1 this year

NV and TL are the only two teams that you can say they shouldn't have made roster swaps more so NV but TL had to make roster swaps because Dardoch just couldn't get along with anyone on the team.

So for the most part the bottom teams from last split have been heavily upgraded and the higher up teams aren't so high up on the tier list so there isn't just a 3 tier A teams and 7 F tier teams so every team are going to look off because of how even they all are.

ModPrandineFeb 4, 2017

It's still very early in the season so naturally there are gonna be some weak links and mistakes here and there. Obviously some teams are naturally better than others but again it's still very early in the season so upsets and comebacks can still definitely happen.