Do you really wanna ban ROX because they banned all female supports in match against Aevictus? You didn't learn from PAX 2018 right? I want a official response from Riot about it. Please upvote this post so we can get attention from more people who would make Rito to response on it.
*English translation is down there. Just scroll down.
Marshbouy88 voteswtf lmao
they're all actually support mains so it wasn't even that BM
Arakadia6 votesBut they aren't all going to play support. It doesn't make sense to ban all supports because only one of them will play support even if they are all support mains.
So it was bm.
Jerry SeinfeId16 votesToplane Lulu/karma/zillean/taric Midlane Lulu/karma/zyra/zilean/nami/morg/lux Jungle Nautilus Adc Lulu Support any support.
If you really want you can have champs in spots that all can go support. They decided to ban what the players were good at.
Were they gonna? No prolly not but why should they care about people on secondary roles in an official tournament?
AlienPrimate53 votesSo it is now a punishable offense to ban 
because they are all men and that is discriminatory.
Jennifer42046 votesno. its only sexist when its towards females. but towards men its totally fine to be a sexist. cause logic of humans
Comerade Sylas12 votesIt was a sign of disrespectful behaviour that´s why they are being punished. If you guys could stop your "muh sexism towards males" you could actually have a point. Letting 5 diamond players play in a high competitive environment is actually pretty fucking disrespectful and just ends competitive integrity then and there and should be a punishable offense. Especially considering they had an actual roster which was sacked to let the girls play for PR purposes.
Infernape29 votesOn the other hand, they are all support mains. They literally got their most played champions banned against them.
Arakadia4 votesExcept only one of them will be playing support. It doesn't matter if they are all support mains because only one of them will be playing support.
It was bm, it wasn't tactical.
Dr Birdie4 votesI've noticed in this thread that none of these people have tried to argue the point that only one of them was playing support. It really days a lot that one obvious statement can destroy their arguments of "but they're all support mains"
Jerry SeinfeId3 votesWhy would they care about banning people on roles those people don't play?
DrCyanide16 votesI've mentioned this other places, but I'll mention it here too.
Their Support's most played support champions last year:
The last ban was Braum (only 3 games on), who could have been banned for any number of reasons (avoid early cheese, keep Karma, Ezreal, and Rumble vialble longer, etc). They were forcing her onto her Morgana pick, they were prepared to deal with that.
Target banning someone isn't BM. It's a strategy that only works if the team is bad enough that the other members can't make up for the one player being banned out.
Infernape6 votesEither way, they should not have been allowed to compete there at all. The whole thing is farcical, right from the very beginning.
Naalith40 votesWhat an absolute joke... I get that being an asshole on the pro circuit isn't cool but competitive banter should always be allowed and honestly the fact they banned a bunch of female supports when they were playing against a team of women who are all low rank (compared to pros) and are basically trying to force themselves onto the world stage despite not being competitive in the slightest by their gender alone is not bad at all. Imagine a high school football team wandering into an NFL match and saying NFL requirements are ageist. NFL people would absolutely annihilate them and probably troll them a bit as well, the high school team is just NOT competitive enough to be in that environment.
It has nothing to do with their gender either. If people honestly think no one would be down with an all female team they're just wrong. It would be cool, but facts about someone's identity go into the "trivia" section and their actual gameplay skills are all that matter when the whole reason for competitive esports IS the gameplay skill. Nothing. Else. Matters. Any personality, drama, or any other personal matter brought into the game is all secondary to actual skill. Faker is Faker because he's a god and it also turns out he's a sweet guy and pretty cool, but if he was the biggest asshole on the planet he'd still be a god and everyone would know about him anyways.
Myrmiron32 votesI can understand Vega Squadron but punishing ROX is beyond rtarded. I can't contribute anything that hasn't already been said in the Reddit post so I'll just paraphrase 2 Reddit posts that summarize my feelings on this matter.
Banning them for "gender discrimination" doesn't look so good when you're an organization that puts female low Dia players vs male Challenger players and then streams the humiliation of those female players live. What a fucking joke Riot RU, if anyone should be banned it's you for allowing this in the first place.
Riot RU compromized their ladder by letting in a low Dia team in in the first place, they make Riot and the LCS RU look like a fucking joke of a company and not the serious esports organization they want to be. So again, if anyone should be ashamed for this it's Riot, not the CHALLENGER players who have to play against LOW DIA players.
Idk if anyone at Riot RU actually play League of Legends, but the difference between CHALLENGER and LOW FUCKING DIA is absolutely massive.
Il Conte Eiacula25 votesSo, next time someone bans my main, I can report them for disrepectful behavior, good to know, oh wait, I’m a male, I guess it won’t be the same
Arakadia3 votesThis isn't comparable and you should know that. Anyone random banning your main isn't specifically done to bm you, and your not in a professional environment.
Dr Birdie2 votesThese people don't understand that. They'd rather just say "there's no such thing as sexism" and then continue to use sexist slurs in all of their games.
Arakadia1 votesIt's the same mentality as seen with the Pax situation (which was different but the same mentality is here).
Sobx5 votesIt's the same mentality as seen with the Pax situation (which was different but the same mentality is here).
You mean this is somehow the same mentality as people disagreeing with setting up a separate designated spots for a group of people based on race or gender and letting them enter before others? I don't think you understand what equality is. Not only that, both of these situations have nothing in common, you're just plain wrong.
KaiSá4 votesYou mean this is somehow the same mentality as people disagreeing with setting up a seperate designated spots for a group of people based on race or gender and letting them enter before others? I don't think you understand what equality is. Not only that, both of these situations have nothing in common, you're just plain wrong.
it pretty much the same situation it riot thinking they need special protection for women cus if they dont the big old bad men will run them out of the industry. which is sexist because your assuming women are weak and cant defend themselves. riot literally saying you can target ban vega best player cus it will appear sexist.
Sobx3 votesit pretty much the same situation it riot thinking they need special protection for women cus if they dont the big old bad men will run them out of the industry. which is sexist because your assuming women are weak and cant defend themselves. riot literally saying you can target ban vega best player cus it will appear sexist.
Ah, if that's the meaning of what he said, then it has similarities, you're right. The thing is I'm pretty sure the person I've quoted was on the 'opposite side' of the whole argument in this thread, which is why I did not understand what he meant by that.
KaiSá3 votesAh, if that's the meaning of what he said, then it has similarities, you're right. The thing is I'm pretty sure the person I've quoted was on the 'opposite side' of the whole argument in this thread, which is why I did not understand what he meant by that.
lol yea i went back and read his comments idk what he is saying he is flipping back any forth. but for me that is how the situations are similar.
Starmfangy24 votesWhy do people still play this game if things like this are happening? Is there something i missed?
Papdi111 votesWhy do people still play this game if things like this are happening? Is there something i missed?
Well nazi invented jet engines and found out that smoking cause cancer. Should we all start smoking and abort jet engines then? In my case I just stopped buying RP. To be honest this game is no longer fun,I just play some aram at work during breaks. Rankeds are worthless
Fuya22 votesThe fuck? The girls were ALL Support mains, and every ban was a ban from pretty much EACH girl's champion pool.
It's fucked.
Papdi18 votes[{quoted}](name=Bird Girl ºvº,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=E0VW7QEJ,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-02-22T10:10:05.301+0000)
The fuck? The girls were ALL Support mains, and every ban was a ban from pretty much EACH girl's champion pool.
It's fucked.
Rito thought it would not go viral but they were wrong. Pretty sure they will let it pass like with PAX 2018 and they will act like nothing happened.
SciFi Scrivener20 votesRiot should be banned for allowing a team to hire players based on gender and not skill.
Papdi14 votes[{quoted}](name=SciFi Scrivener,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=E0VW7QEJ,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2019-02-22T13:52:30.465+0000)
Riot should be banned for allowing a team to hire players based on gender and not skill.
Nah, I don't think so. Hiring people into teams should be in full competence of its owners. Whether it's good or bad that's not thing Rito should push their nose in.
Kürama2 votesMmmmm….
Should Riot also hire air traffic controllers to code the game if they chose to? You think it's make sense?
DrCyanide1 votesIf you're going to use that comparison, do it right.
onionsan0116 votesSo if a team bans 5 male champions... they will get banned for sexism towards others male players?
OF COURSE NOT!!!
Genghis Khat16 votesHow is putting diamond 4 players against legit pro players not disrespectful? that is literally mocking the competitive integrity.
Dukarg15 votes"We want diversity in our games." --------> Creates all female team without even making sure they are pro equivalent players -----> Team bombs horrifically on an embarassing level ---------> "We should blame the team that banned against their strengths instead of ourselves for allowing this to happen."
The level of idiotic logic is amazing.
Vah Medoh13 votesNext time I play with friends, I will tell them to ban 5 supps, lets see then if we get banned for doing that?
Hěro13 votesImagine a team with only support players in it... on stage.
Bah Biscuit3 votesImagine a team with only support players in it... on stage.
Exactly. The team of DIAMONDS (all support mains) vs ACTUAL PROS was just idiotic. They set them up for failure, then whine when their mains are banned and say that's the problem.... No, everything is wrong with this picture. Smh.
Kenneky12 votesFrom what screenshots I have seen, didn't they banned Thresh and Braum as well? Where did they become girls? I find this situation so stupid, do people really get offended by stuff like that? I'm a girl myself and I found this funny rather offensive. If the female team banned only male champions they are fine, but if the male team banned only female champions it's offensive. This situation is so damn stupid, I'm done.
PeachPanda3 votesHoly shit fucking exactly
DartExplosion1012 votesJesus, they banned 5 supports against 5 support mains? Outrageous
Dominator11 votesTHIS BEHAVIOR BY RIOT IS OUTRAGEOUS!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!! "intentionally stretching out" the match AND "ROX banned 5 support champions during the pick/ban process" IS BANNABLE NOW?? I HOPE THIS IS A REALLY EARLY APRIL FOOLS JOKE.
Lauchmelder16 votesNo, intentionally stretching out a game is toxic and should even be punished outside of pro play (if it's really blatant aka scores like 2:53 or smth).
Banning 5 supports against a female team pretty much consisting of support mains shouldn't be punished though.
WAZZZUP50010 votesThis is a catch 22. If we actually speak out, more people outside this community will reinforce their beliefs that the gaming community is a sexist "all boys" club. But, if we don't speak in ROX's defense, they get shamed by Riot and seen as sexist by those who don't know the whole situation.
BladeSteel9 votesFrom my point of view: If you have a team of Challenger players vs a team of low diamond, wouldn't it be "better" to ban their comfort picks no matter if they're meta or not? For example, I Wouldn't be surprised if a Gold team banned the comfort picks of an Iron team they were going against, even if those picks aren't meta in those roles, forcing them onto picks that they aren't as comfortable with.
Would people say it would be disrespectful if it was an all male low diamond team which happened to be all support mains if the same bans were made?
AlSO. If you watch the VOD the entire team was laughing at the bans, so unless laughing means "I am upset and offended" in Russia, they didn't seem to feel offended or disrespected.
swxss9 votesthey uhhhhh weren't even all female champions tho
Resolution8 votesIts Pax all over again... Riot should honestly just sit back and let players just play. Are they not allowed to ban what they want?
What actual rule did they break?
GreenKnight2 votesIs there an english version of this article?
Weiss Guertena9 votesThere's a reddit post where it's explained and discussed in detail. Lots of things I could say about it (almost certainly with usage of extremely foul language befitting the situation) but everything that could be said was already said there.
GreenKnight6 votes[{quoted}](name=Weiss Guertena,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=E0VW7QEJ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-22T02:51:49.039+0000)
There's a reddit post where it's explained and discussed in detail. Lots of things I could say about it (almost certainly with usage of extremely foul language befitting the situation) but everything that could be said was already said there.
... what they did expect when they put players with so much varying skill against each other?