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THIS GAME WAS AMAZING THE TURN AROUND CLG WINS THE GAME CLG VS RNG CLG PROVES THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE UP THIS GAME WAS INSANE I AM SO HYPED!!!
THIS GAME WAS AMAZING THE TURN AROUND CLG WINS THE GAME CLG VS RNG CLG PROVES THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE UP THIS GAME WAS INSANE I AM SO HYPED!!!
NA doing well internationally? That goes against everything we know. You could almost say its... Counter Logic. *puts on sunglasses. *[slayer-jinx-catface]
well tsm won msi last year so...
you mean they won the spring split 2015. TSM went 1-4 and ended up in 5th place at MSI. This year, NA's team has gone 7-3. I'm not saying horrid things about the second best team in NALCS right now, it's just that CLG is doing so much better than anyone expects an NA team to do.
oh i thought TSM won MSI, maybe i got confused was it IEM they won?
oh and i know I'm super-happy for NA I'm not the typical NA vs EU guy i prefer both the western regions to perform well, and said going into this that CLG looked MUCH better than anything G2 had to offer, i'd put it down to experience but having watched G2 through the summer split they just are not tactical they are simply ''fight or flight'' much like Immortals where and they got figured out and exposed by CLG then by TSM, granted the refusal to play the meta top didn't help immortals but i don't think they would of won anyway to be honest that week TSM where very in sync.
I'm hoping CLG can put up a fight in the BO5 series, and i honestly think they can there tactical, smart, have shown numerous play styles, i have hopes for them.
as for EU origin/h2k/vitality would of matched up better at MSI i know they didn't win the split once why they where not there but there more methodical and tactical G2 just yeh, i knew they where not good enough for an international stage.
RNG got cocky and sloppy and underestimated them.
That last dragon fight though, epic.
This tournament has been chalk full of amazing team fights. I don't like the lack of laneswaps, as it dumbs down the early game by quite a bit imo (and is screwing the champion diversity), but past 20 minutes this has been a very entertaining tournament to watch.
The composure shown by CLG, it's legendary...
OMG OMG OMG WHAT A FRAKING AWESOME GAME!!!!! Quite sure the best game of this entire group Phase!!!
If you missed it, check the highlights below!!!: http://themoment.tv/playlist/2185/moment/16744 http://themoment.tv/playlist/2185/moment/16744
OMG OMG OMG WHAT A FRAKING AWESOME GAME!!!!! Quite sure the best game of this entire group Phase!!!
If you missed it, check the highlights below!!!: http://themoment.tv/playlist/2185/moment/16744 http://themoment.tv/playlist/2185/moment/16744
FULL GAME HERE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLTlHrTa32M
I would hope a game in which a team threw a 17k gold lead isn't considered the best game of the tournament. That's some DIG vs EF level Clownfiesta right there.
i think its more of the fact of the way the team won. they didnt "throw away" the lead. its was snatched from them by an amazing play that noone would expect.
Yeah...no. When you are ahead almost 20k and find a way to lose, you definitely threw the game away.
"its was snatched from them by an amazing play that noone would expect." Shouldn't be possible with that kind of a lead. Like you shouldn't even be in a position to lose a fight, let alone the game when you are up 20k unless you did something wrong.
so youre telling me, that ekko getting shoved into a wall unable to move, another being forced completely out of dragon, all of that was avoidable? three people couldnt leave drag to go around that wall becaues the other members were circling around towards the front of the pit.
clg shaved off 7k worth of that lead in that one fight due to ekko being stuck against a wall, the kindred play and three people being out of the fight completely. that wasnt a throw, that was dota levels of split second action that a lot of people are not too aware of a lot of the time. the reaction needed to get around the kindred azir flash into pit (or dash i cant remember at this moment) into a kindred ult azir ult, would have been faster then they could have reacted. with how they were positioned they were expecting a kindred flash smite which you can see by the smite being thrown down the second kindred goes over that wall.
just because you feel one way doesnt mean that the opposite isnt true. that game was exciting, intense and they brought down the "undefeated" team.
Yes when you are up 17k gold, you should be picking your fights and making the enemy react to you. You also shouldn't be losing a fight with that kind of a lead.
You said it yourself after all game of RNG playing better, and amassing an almost 20k gold lead, one fight cut off 7k. That's the definition of a throw. One fight lost them a game they had been winning the whole time. This isn't what CLG did right, this is how RNG managed to lose a fight with that kind of lead.
Also the defining moment of the Dragon fight was Wuxx dashing point blank into every member of CLG by himself. Clownfiesta.
Edit: holy shit just watched that terrible fight. Thresh singles himself out and gets killed right off the back and Nid suicides at the end of it. On top of Wuxx dashing in and committing suicide. This is the best game?
so is its a 17k gold lead a 15k gold lead or a 20k gold lead? they say a FIFTEEN k gold lead you keep fluctuation.
anyways, the dragon fight wasnt won due to the point blank flash it was the coordination attack on two fronts between the back of brag pit and the front. you are just a pessimist who cannot accept that this game was good.
the intensity the hype, the wonder everything. thats what made it the most exciting, the fights that lead up to it, the fights that transpired during it. accept it. the game was wonderful.
There is the match history for you. The highest the gold lead ever gets is 17k, i call it 20k sometimes becasue its close enough. I guess you pulled 15 out of your ass, becasue I didn't say that.
RNG were split up while trying to secure an objective, which shouldn't be the case when you have that lead. Coordinated attack, lol they walked up and just killed mata who was standing around doing nothing. Wuxx who does most of their damage dashes into the middle of the entire team and dies. and the Nid chooses to suicide as well after the fight to feed them another kill.
Stop trying to make that Clownfiesta sound like high quality league. You have to try to throw a fight that hard with that lead but by god RNG managed to do, by suiciding two members and another just donating a kill while he was afk or something. That was a terrible match considering those are two of the highest ranked teams right now.
15k was from the shout casters mate but whatever.
you are just cant accept that clg made an amazing play. get over yourself please im done here.
EDIT: btw nice downvoting all ym comments.
Didn't downvote any of your comments, not even sure why you care about downvoted comments, they don't make you wrong or right.
I can't accept that CLG made an amazing play becasue they didn't. RNG straight up threw that game with a terrible fight with one person being caught out and two suiciding. Made worse by the gold lead they had. That's textbook clownfiesta play, and the exact type of play that caused people to speculate China being one of the weakest regions.
Its ok that you are salty bandwaggon CLG fan, its not the end of the world that they got a game given to them.
I can't accept that CLG made an amazing play becasue they didn't.
That game had so little to do with "plays." RNG had a great early game comp and garbage late game comp. When late game came around, surprise surprise, it sucked and got wrecked. RNG failed to close early when they had a big lead, and despite Huhi having a mostly crappy game, CLG won by default cause they were built for late game teamfights. RNG drafted for a certain win condition and failed to meet that condition. CLG does deserve props for stalling the game out IMO as they understood their win condition and stuck to it.
And no I'm not a CLG fan, but I give credit where credit is due. Unlike you who seems to just have some resentment towards NA in general.
It has nothing to do with comps when you have almost a 20k gold advantage. At the time of the dragon fight everyone on RNG was at least 1 full item ahead of their counterpart on CLG. There is no way they win that fight straight up.
I told you what happens and there are many replays of that game since you think I'm lying. Mata just stands there and gets killed without doing anything. And both Lucian and Nidalee suicide during the fight. Thats not a comeback or an impressive team fight win. That is a team literally throwing away a game. That's not even good Leauge of Legends, this is just a team capitalizing on a game being given to them. This is also the second time between these two teams that the game has ended in poor play, since the first was Darshan initiating 1v5 without ult on Maokai.
This isn't good LoL. This is full on clownfiesta which is why you find it entertaining. If CLG had actually earned that victory and not just been given that victory after falling behind 17K I might actually congratulate them. But realistically that was RNG dominating the game and then throwing it away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk1Ojr9e76U maybe watch that dragon fight again with a bit of a different perspective. You do certainly seem salty that I don't think CLG earned that victory.
I must say the kindred ult onto drake was a good play. Rest was just plain dumb. I kinda get why MLXG went for the execute on Huhi. If Huhi dies there, thats not a free baron. Shame he still had Zhonya.
On the other hand, that drake fight was a mess + RNG just should have sticked to 1-3-1. Or go 4 toplane and let MLXG take drake solo just so CLG has to stay base. Cus nida should win a smitefight with q execute.
There is the match history for you. The highest the gold lead ever gets is 17k, i call it 20k sometimes becasue its close enough. I guess you pulled 15 out of your ass, becasue I didn't say that.
RNG were split up while trying to secure an objective, which shouldn't be the case when you have that lead. Coordinated attack, lol they walked up and just killed mata who was standing around doing nothing. Wuxx who does most of their damage dashes into the middle of the entire team and dies. and the Nid chooses to suicide as well after the fight to feed them another kill.
Stop trying to make that Clownfiesta sound like high quality league. You have to try to throw a fight that hard with that lead but by god RNG managed to do, by suiciding two members and another just donating a kill while he was afk or something. That was a terrible match considering those are two of the highest ranked teams right now.
I gotta say this is somewhat thought out except for one fact....................... WHO THE F ARE YOU COMPARING THIS TOO? CAUSE I KNOW YOU AINT PRO LEVEL SO TELL ME WHAT YOU ARE COMPARING IT TO! I KNOW YOU ARE A KOREA FAN BUT SKT AINT PLAYIN ANY BETTER THEY LOST TO THE SAME TEAMS YOU ARE SAYIN PLAYED A CLOWFIESTA! DONT TALK SHIT WHEN YOU CANT BACK IT UP! This is MSI. This is the highest level you will see in lol. Worlds could POSSIBLY be considered but in that there is 3 teams which means there are some bad teams mixed in there. this is the cream of the crop who WON their regions (unlike your poor poor ROX tigers, threw it again I gotta say). SKT is the BEST from korea but they finally met their match and lost some games against the same two regions you are talking shit about. you cant say they are a better team if this is the level they are playing at. they beat both teams later on sure, but that is a sign of inconsistency which is uncommon for SKT. I know that at their height, which was last year, that korea were the gods of league. but guess what? GODS CAN FALL! they fell to FW twice (who in turn lost twice to these "clown fiesta playing teams") and also lost to NA! I am a diehard NA fan and even I know that that is crazy AF. you can check the statistics but that is what made it even more interesting. RNG threw I will not doubt that. But there is a certain point where it's not so much them throwing but CLG stalling. with Azir and Kallista they have more than enough waveclear and they are able to disengage with multiple spells including poppy. And also you can't say there were all garbage fights. Darshan started the comeback with his epic play where he got Wuxx into a wall. Was that a mistake by Wuxx? yes. Was it a good play by darshan to take advantage of that? yes. SKT's style of play is all about this as well where they take a mistake someone makes and turns it into a huge lead. and also that clip of the dragon teamfight is another thing I want to bring up. Was it a bad play by Wuxx to dive in? yes. Was clg smart to notice immediately and capitalize? yes. the fact is that no game of league will ever be perfect (even perfect games and YES even SSW games). And considering the pressure you are under in these scenarios there is a legitimate sloppiness to games that nobody can deny. But I dare you to fucking say you can play any better than anyone there. I know for a fact you can't. so looking at it afterwards and saying "OMG ITS A FUCKING CLOWNFIESTA" is stupid due to the fact that you would've made even worse mistakes earlier no doubt and failed miserably for your team. Hell. RNG got the lead from great plays by Wuxx so I dare you to say shit like this again. I FUCKING dare you
Ok, Wuxx and Mlxg suicided and Mata got killed just standing there. They threw the game, CLG didn't win it.
Trying way to hard there bro. That was definitely a clownfiesta game, get over it. I don't care that you are an NA fanboy, though I do think its funny you try to bash me as a tigers fan when you have a C9 icon but are bandwaggoning CLG.
Ok, Wuxx and Mlxg suicided and Mata got killed just standing there. They threw the game, CLG didn't win it.
Trying way to hard there bro. That was definitely a clownfiesta game, get over it. I don't care that you are an NA fanboy, though I do think its funny you try to bash me as a tigers fan when you have a C9 icon but are bandwaggoning CLG.
who ever said I was badnwaggoning CLG? I'm a C9 fan forever but for MSI all of us NA people gotta have that NA icon on. The funny thing is it isn't showing rn ;l rough life ya know? but in all honesty Darshan said it best that we gotta have pride as a region. So yeah, I'm supporting CLG, but come summer I'm rootin for c9 all over again. Sounds like Meteos is gonna be on the main roster so maybe I will see some zac (main champ :D IM PRAYIN PLS MEMEOS MAKE MY DREAMS COME TRUE. in all honestly If we can have some pride for NA here when they beat the people that beat ya tigers I think we finally can stop getting bashed on by those EU people (not saying all EU people pls don't burn me on a stake all you good EU people out there ;l). tbh I already said that mata and wuxx played badly in that fight. I'm just also saying you wouldn't do better and that there isn't really a point in trying to deny the level of performance by all the teams. I could bring up a time or two that ROX has choked at international play (cough cough WE. and yes that is the only time but ya gotta admit that was pretty hilarious :D) and also while yeah I'm an NA fanboy. at least it is my home region. you aint Korean are you? we are just different fanboys of different regions, but we are FROM the same region. If you want to support Korea that is fine but don't try to degrade other region's play when you cant play nearly as well
You don't have to play at a pro level to understand the game lol. Jesus Christ you know some of the casters they hire don't even play the game at all right?
You don't have to play at a pro level to understand the game lol. Jesus Christ you know some of the casters they hire don't even play the game at all right?
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All the casters for the OGN for starters.
And I think its funny that you think only team that lost to the wild card is incapable playing in a clownfiesta. Or RNG who lost two games with a lead, and almost lost to SKT twice with a lead. Do you think I'm making up what happened. Have you not actually seen the game and are just going all NA fanboy because of the results. Go look at that fight again, they played terrible and threw a 17k gold lead.
Edit: holy shit just watched that terrible fight. Thresh singles himself out and gets killed right off the back and Nid suicides at the end of it. On top of Wuxx dashing in and committing suicide. This is the best game?
No. Not the best game. I would say that the best game was the final one: SKT v RNG.
But it certainly was the most unexpected result from say, mid-game on. And easily the most amazing comeback of the tournament.
It was actually another stupid bug of Azir, with such thin walls like the drag pit, his wall is suppose to completely shove the enemy champions over the wall, rito made a bug fix this patch.
actually, with the space in that gap, he could move in two directions, he didnt get shoved right against the wall just between two walls. does that make sense? you can see him moving left and right trying to path towards something before flashing the wall.
Huhi still super bad though :p
CLG is not going to win the finals, but may get there. They are not doing well enough to be hyped up. CLG makes to many mistakes right now; they count on capitalizing on the throws of the enemy, instead of being proactive.
Clg is doing better, but more is just needed.
Finally someone with eyes.
I never said they didn't throw remember? they did for sure I am not doubting you. and yes the game with SKT was close. but I want to say then. what place are the OGN casters to talk shit then if they don't play the game. you pointed them out in a previous post with Monte's reaction and if what you are saying is true then I will honestly say that then maybe even they don't know as much as us which means while yes RNG played badly we cant fault them and you have to commend them on how they got the lead in the first place. they had played mostly stalling comps till then so when you try something new there are gonna be things that happen that don't normally
I hope they win this MSI , and fk G2 trash team
VERY PROUD of NA and all the other regions but lets not forget what the real and main goal of this is tournament is for; WORLDS. I feel like SKT and Royal are just analyzing the other teams to see their Strengths and weaknesses and maybe the other less proven teams and regions are doing the same. CLG is doing great so far but I see a pattern so far at MSI. They react to the other teams with TP and even make plays themselves with TP( Darshan top lane) but they seem to be behind around the 35-40 min mark and just wait till the 50 min mark and react and hope their 1. late game and 2. Team fighting team comp wins and just win off the death timers alone. Look at CLG C9 and TSM at worlds last year all had the SAME style of play bottom push or top push with adc - go mid push mid - Lose game. HOWEVER CLG is not just a team but FAMILY keep it up CLG and NA ; and great showings from SKT- RNG- SM- and FW.
um RNG wasn't really playing that game seriously... Did you not realize how ham they went? RNG's comp was full early game 3 assasins(ekko kinda count as one since his early game dmg still can kill squishies) and CLG won because a late game full build Kalista with QSS and Blackshied aimply can't get assasinated.
Put Huhi on someone who did not have broken range and waveclear in that game, CLG will see their nexus explode before 30 minute. Winning a "come back" with an azir infinite safe waveclearing the entire game is not really a come back. CLG had a late game comp and they SHOULD win. (Honestly fuck azir, he was balanced based on all the glitchy bugs, now he had all the bugs fixed rito need to nerf him to compensate. Makes 0 sense how 3 item Azir can 1v1 full build Nidalee just because his kit is superior against any champion that has a dash or don't have 800 range dps.)
CLG might be able to make finals, due to having an easier schedule(FW is playing very sloppy and they aren't putting Maple on carry champions), but anyone with eyes can see they aren't gonna win against RNG nor SKT.