Was Dyrus one of the best top laners of all time?

Shoople·Mar 27, 2018·1 votes·1,548 views

Ok, I think we can all agree that Dyrus was a great top laner when he was in his prime. We all know that Dyrus performed poorly at worlds 2015 because of the constant ganks and harass he had to deal with. I have looked at peoples top 10 top laners and Dyrus is never on there. His ability to come back from the grave and destroy others should make him worthy of at least being in the top 10. I am open to debate and please prove my opinion wrong but I just can't think of another top laner in NA at least who outperformed him when he was in his prime.

11 Comments

Quiet DudeMar 27, 20181 votes

I think Nasus and Garen are some of the best top laners as well

ShoopleMar 27, 20181 votes

uhh what?

Quiet DudeMar 27, 20181 votes

Dyrus definitely deserves to be on the top 10 list, after the juggernaut rework he is awesome to play

EunsonMar 27, 20182 votes

He's making fun of Dyrus name sounding like Darius

GeminiRuneMar 27, 20181 votes

If we're going by player longevity and success, he deserves a mention of an acknowledged great. Among Top Laners, I would say so without thinking deeper into it. Outside of the obvious SoaZ and a few names in China and Korea, Dyrus despite his collapse (which frankly wasn't even the worst fall a pro player ever suffered) still deserves an honorable mention.

ChompyWulfMar 27, 20181 votes

The problem is even if you're best in position NA, that's kinda like being the tallest midget.

He's a memorable player, but since I can rattle off five players who are as good or better with ease (Darshan, Huni, Flame, Impact, Ssumday) in NA history alone...I can't say he's easily top ten all time without a lot of stat breakdown.

III BAKURYU III Mar 28, 20181 votes

I'll go on record and say he's the most underrated player in NA history and if I had to make a list of the top 10 greatest top laners in League of Legends history I would place him in the top 10.
The problem isn't about skill for Dyrus as we've all seen Dyrus do some incredible things in his career but more so being "uninterested" in games and overall, his career. I CAN'T find where I saw/heard/read but I remember Dyrus himself stating that he didn't actually try until around 2014 Summer in which he kinda wasted a decent chunk of his career 2011-2013/2014 being very unresponsive.

Dyrus being left on an island isn't really something new for top laners and there seems to be another league player that gets left on an island countless times and yet, he tends to make huge plays from being on the disadvantaged side of things(Soaz) So, the argument about being left alone to be a + in an argument in his favor isn't being noted. However, the system he's been in for his whole LCS career does bring some light to his side.

Long story short, if Dyrus was actually responsive in his career and instead of being monotone and agreeing to everything Bjergsen/Regi has to say 24/7 and had some backbone and tried, then yeah, I'd place him higher but as of right now he's around 10th and that's only because of his name value honestly for me.

ChompyWulfMar 28, 20182 votes

I would argue he's not underrated because he often didn't give his full effort. Dyrus was one of those players who personified the "Baylife Boys" TSM who didn't scrim and prepare seriously. If you aren't giving full effort for most of your career and not trying to grow, improve, and push yourself, being overlooked is fair because people will see and note that lack of effort. He had one of the longest runs on a top NA team, but like I said below, when I can easily name 5 other comparable or better NA tops, I don't think Dyrus gets an easy pass in top ten.

III BAKURYU III Mar 28, 20181 votes

Agree.

As I stated if Dyrus did in fact actually tried while being on the most successful NA if not arguably Western teams(more so as a name brand) I would place him at #10 easily without any hesitating or making a list of some kind but instead, I only placed him at #10 out of respect for the retired player vs other players as you mention(Darshan, Impact etc) that aren't retired as of yet. Once the days come that players such as Darshan, Impact, Ssumday, Huni, Balls etc leave the scene(retire) I will gladly place them higher than Dyrus in which making a case of top 20 best top would even be a stretch in most cases without diving deeper.