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So this new set of 2 games in EU LCS.....

Cayde 6··5 votes·1,293 views

So why is eu in a best of 2 setup and na is best of 3 and korea is best of 3? Also why cant we just go to the Korean system where 2 teams play each day? Makes so much more sense than this ridiculous 2 stream system. I mean seriously it kills it for me. I don't wanna have to watch 2 streams at the same time to watch my favorite teams. Just gimme 6 games a day from 4 teams and be done with it. Riot is running this whole thing into the ground soooooo fast.

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Well Hungarian2 votes

Riot is trying both systems out to see which one works best. At some point, both NA and EU will have the same format.

I don't know why Riot bothers to explain these things when they announce them, no one seems to read it.

MrPharmD1 votes

no one seems to read

The single biggest problem in America....why do you think it would be different in a game on a server that is played mostly by Americans lol?

B00B002 votes

NA and EU are testing both formats, EU was chosen to Test the BO2 as we as a nation (i know EU isn't a nation but for ease of description) are used to ties from our sports, leagues, cups etc and how the point system(s) tend to work.

whichever one is more successful will be introduced next spring split across the board in NA and EU respectivey, i suspect BO3 will win out, it makes more sense for league in my opinion.

but there is your reason.

Eleshakai1 votes

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NA and EU are testing both formats, EU was chosen to Test the BO2 as we as a nation (i know EU isn't a nation but for ease of description) are used to ties from our sports, leagues, cups etc and how the point system(s) tend to work.

whichever one is more successful will be introduced next spring split across the board in NA and EU respectivey, i suspect BO3 will win out, it makes more sense for league in my opinion.

but there is your reason.

Ya, this was basically what they explained. They wanted to test both BO2 and BO3. They figured EU people would be more likely to be able to figure out BO2s, so they gave it to them. Stupid Muricans.

Jungle Lux God1 votes

If I'm not mistaken, EU LCS is running on a best of 2 format because European sports as a whole are more used to best of 2 formats while North American sports are more used to best of 3 formats, and Riot wanted to do sets instead of individual matches for this season while still keeping the format similar to what players experienced in other formats.

It looks weird to me too, but there's a method to Riot's madness in this situation.

Ale non è male1 votes

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If I'm not mistaken, EU LCS is running on a best of 2 format because European sports as a whole are more used to best of 2 formats while North American sports are more used to best of 3 formats, and Riot wanted to do sets instead of individual matches for this season while still keeping the format similar to what players experienced in other formats.

It looks weird to me too, but there's a method to Riot's madness in this situation.

Nope, that explanation was straight up crap

Bo2 format is very rare even intraditional sports in EU, the most similar you get is the use of home-away legs in group and knockout stage of competitions but that's not like the system Riot introduced at all

EU was given Bo2 because Riot had to figure it out how to being able to increase the number of games for both LCS to allow them to compete with Eastern teams without expand the streaming time too much, and the solution they found for the short-mid term was to give EU the "worse" format with the Bo2 and favor NA with Bo3

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Bo2 was given to EU because soccer/association football is the most popular sport there. That sport has possible ties (like a Bo2 system) and a 3/1/0 point system (like a Bo2 system).

Bo2 is the more popular League system anyway, and the better system in my opinion, so I'm really not sure where you're going with that.

Ale non è male1 votes

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Bo2 was given to EU because soccer/association football is the most popular sport there. That sport has possible ties (like a Bo2 system) and a 3/1/0 point system (like a Bo2 system).

Bo2 is the more popular League system anyway, and the better system in my opinion, so I'm really not sure where you're going with that.

Are you trying to explain to an Euroepan how European sports system work? Seriously? XD

In every sport where is possible to estabilish a winner within the rules, the winner is estabilished. In league you can't tie, the one that take the nexus down is the winner, and the winner is awarded the win.

The only sports when there are ties, are the sports where within their rules there is the possibility that teams score equal number of points, and extend the duration of an event is not a possibility because extend player time indefinitely till you got a winner would put extra starin to athletes body and extra problems to team organizations to the point that it is better to award the draw and settle the standings through a round-robin tournament with a point system. In football/soccer or rugby you'd need extra time to decide the winner, and this system is used in knockout phases of tournamenst, but because of the rule of the game you could have situation where even extra time is not enough to estabilish the winner, so what would you going to do? Play further extra time? Going for penalties which are pretty poor representation of a team strength?

In American football regular season, even though you go with the W-L format to make the standings and you do overtime for games that are tied, there is the possibility of a draw for the exact same reason, although it is a rare occurrence and it feels weird for you Americans that are not used to it because most of the other major american sports have rules that allow to identify in a reasonable time a winner

No one would try to set the score of a game where an athlete/team will surely inherently win a game through that Bo2 system they introduced. To eliminate the fluke of single game outliers you play round-robin torunaments/group stage where teams face each other 2 or more times, while in competition that needs a knockout stage there is a tiebraker system (home-away goal system in most soccer cups) or an extra set/time is played if teams in a double-leg sistuation are tied because there is not the possibility to play an extra game to decide a winner for a number of reasons (mainly scheduling and economic reasons for teams), if is possible to play a third and deciding game this is done

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

Bo2 isn't worse than Bo3. When Samsung White stomped everyone at season 4 worlds, it was off of a summer split of nothing but Bo2. Both are proven to work, only if the team is good enough.

Kledy McKledFace1 votes

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If I'm not mistaken, EU LCS is running on a best of 2 format because European sports as a whole are more used to best of 2 formats while North American sports are more used to best of 3 formats, and Riot wanted to do sets instead of individual matches for this season while still keeping the format similar to what players experienced in other formats.

It looks weird to me too, but there's a method to Riot's madness in this situation.

america is more like best of 1 or best of 7 format... 3 or 5 I never see this other than in videogames

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Yeah the Eu point system and standings are meh. Who wants ties when you can have a WINNER instead.

Profirix1 votes

I'm pretty sure the reason NA switched to a Bo3 is because they didn't believe that one game was a good indication of how well a team was playing. Other than that, I am not sure why we went with Bo3 instead of Bo2. They were originally talking about Bo2 for NA but I think it was probably just a familiarity thing. Bo2s are weird.

Tazimuss1 votes

I completely agree. There should be a standard best of X setup for all regions and they really really need to stop these simultaneous broadcasts. Viewers are missing out on half the action for no reason. Having the LCS every day is a much, much better solution to the added games than a simultaneous broadcast.

Mazariamonti1 votes

I think they're just seeing which is better, while not a 'traditional sport' format, best of two's have been used for LoL leagues, most notably in Korea. I wouldn't feel good about ties but I think both are better than the best of one format if for no other reason than that you get to see more games from whatever team you like.

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

It seems to me Bo2 leaves you wide open for a lot of ties and tie-breakers at the end of the season. I could be wrong, but Bo3 makes more sense to me. Then again, maybe they want tie-breakers for the suspense and such.

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