Will C9 take down SSB and if they do they have to take down their sister team SSW a task the Number 1 team in North America was unable to do. I love C9 just as much as any other American, but I think they won't stand a chance against SSW. C9 is the final hope for North America lets see what they can bring to the table
TheSequelsRBad1 votesYou know its funny that everyone assumes that White is the better team than Blue, when SSB came out of Korea in first for a reason. If cloud9 can pull out the underdog victory over SSB, then I think they can beat SSW. In my opinion it will be harder for C9 to beat SSB than SSW, because as we have seen SSW seems to have trouble with late game shot-calling, which is C9's strong point. However Cloud9 will be big underdogs in their match against SSB, and we'll just have to see if they can surprise everyone.
12tales1 votesIf cloud9 can pull out the underdog victory over SSB, then I think they can beat SSW.
The point of underdog victories is that they aren't repeatable. If Cloud 9 has 30-70 odds against Samsung Blue and manages to pull out a win, that doesn't change the fact that they had 30-70 odds, and it doesn't change their odds versus Samsung White.
I'd also like to point out that Ozone were the favorites against Blue in Champions Spring. Anything can happen in team kill matches, because the teams scrim each other so often. It's not really fair to take the results of Samsung Blue vs. Samsung White and assume that it's indicative of which team is stronger on the international stage, against opponents that they've never played against before.
Jesot1 votesIt's because people have actually watched the matches between SSW and SSB. SSW throws those games pretty hardcore. They get way ahead, and get cocky.
Kaisuna1 votesI'm saying this because SSW has already made it to the quarterfinals beating TSM the outcome of tomorrow's match will determine who faces SSW in the quarterfinals I'm not saying SSB isn't worse than SSW if anything SSB is the team to beat SSW but C9 isn't TSM they are a more consistent team than TSM they have beaten TSM in the past and they are the only NA team to take down a Korean in the group stage. C9 is the last hope for NA thats the point I was making. If anyone can beat the top 2 Korean teams it is C9. LMQ never stood a chance and TSM played against a dominating SSW. C9 has a better chance beating these two DOMINATING Korean teams than any other NA team
TSM Khal Drogo1 votesI'm saying this because SSW has already made it to the quarterfinals beating TSM the outcome of tomorrow's match will determine who faces SSW in the quarterfinals I'm not saying SSB isn't worse than SSW if anything SSB is the team to beat SSW but C9 isn't TSM** they are a more consistent team than TSM** they have beaten TSM in the past and they are the only NA team to take down a Korean in the group stage. C9 is the last hope for NA thats the point I was making. If anyone can beat the top 2 Korean teams it is C9. LMQ never stood a chance and TSM played against a dominating SSW. C9 has a better chance beating these two DOMINATING Korean teams than any other NA team
I don't know where this whole consistent reputation has come from but it certainly has not been C9 calling card this season. They have lost to complexity black several times during the LCS season and in the layoffs vs TSM they were exposed to their biggest weakness and that is Hai. C9 goes as far as Hai takes them it's that simple. If Hai doesn't get zed or a good mid champ he can carry on the team does horrible; as shown in their games vs TSM in the playoffs and in their group stage games.