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MaRiN are u kidding me..Huni is the No.1 toplaner in the world right now!!
Huni got rekt
Only small cs lead, but far better impact early in the game. I would say Huni outperformed Marin.
lmao Huni did the wrecking, I don't know what game you were watching Wldthing, but if Huni and FNC got rekt, I don't know what to say about TSM.
Huni is the best toplaner in the tournament in my opinion, it was him who almost carried FNC to the win against SKT T1, they still put up a good fight against them though.
that was a great game.
Well, in the States I would say that Dyrus is the best toplaner. Korea has him beat though.
Its been a long time since Dyrus consistently out performed other top laners in a meaningful way in even NA, mostly due to the meta moving away from carry top laners. He is usually a solid player, and maybe the most consistent in NA (although I'm not even positive I would agree with that), but he is FAR from world class playing as a low damage tank, this just isn't the right meta for his play style IMO. Huni and Marin just showed that very clearly. He has adapted better than Balls did in NA, but both of them are so much better on carry top laners.
I don't think its so much as he hasn't adapted as it is TSM's style is to leave dyrus to fend for himself. Santorin never went top to help him out after he was repeatedly getting ganked etc.. Also if it is an adaptation issue they should let him play what he is good with since they just let him fend for himself now days...
Yes, they do leave him to fend for himself, because in previous seasons (when the meta/style they played allowed him to play more of a carry style) he was able to bully around with Renekton, Bork Shyv etc and carry from top lane. But TSM hasn't seemed to adapted well into providing more support to top lane, and Dyrus still pushes top out like he used to, and gets punished for it by good teams
Now this is a good way to say it.
if dyrus is the best top laner of na i dont know what to think of na...
Lmao i'm a tsm fan but give me some of that shit you\re smoking please. Best top in NA.. the way he played these last games just made me cringe.
First of all, I think zionspartan is alot better then dyrus. I honestly think dyrus has a great deal to do with holding TSM back at the moment, that's just my personal opinion though.
"He doesn't need to really carry because his team is carrying"
Heard that so many times now, what a lame excuse. If he was on a less good team he would be rated worse, thus imo he is overrated atm.
Well impact said he believed dyrus was the best top laner.
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Well impact said he believed dyrus was the best top laner.
Because he couldn't vote for himself?
Impact is so much better than Dyrus, but Dyrus is a legend.
There may be a lot of top laners better than him. In my opinion he should have retired with the rest of the team, mostly because he cannot fit with the playstyle of the game at all, lacks mechanics and is very predictable, he falls for the same traps over and over and over and does not change his way of playing. I just think he is brainlazy
Only reason Dyrus doesn't perform well because they camp the shit out of him. Did you not see the skt vs tsm game? They banned only top lane champs like why if he sucks ass? He is a good player when they aren't on his ass...
I like zionspartan tho.
Yeah I agree he's solid but gets camped all the time. But that pulls pressure off mid and bot and he stays relevant for late game
why if he sucks ass?
Because he is easy to pick on
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Only reason Dyrus doesn't perform well because they camp the shit out of him. Did you not see the skt vs tsm game? They banned only top lane champs like why if he sucks ass? He is a good player when they aren't on his ass...
I like zionspartan tho.
Why would a team ban only Toplaners? Lets think about it...
So by banning only Toplaners they made sure that the inferior toplaner (Dyrus) with 1 of the worst championpools in Worldclass pro scene (never seen a toplaner with less viable choices of champs to do good with) and therefore by banning only 3 champs their superior toplaner who actually can play more then 3 champs will have the easiest lane ever and more then that even the jungler can come top and get fed.
Its way too easy to bla bla bla about getting dived in every game and not seeing that a player is actually pretty bad. (also his positioning, his wave control, his warding are all questionable and not Worldclass at all)
True. So so true. I hardly watch it but I KNOW a good player when I see one. He...... My god I wanted to bust my screen. "Free food at top guys!" Perfection.
Agred on ZionSpartan. Quas and Impact are WAY better than Dyrus too.
True but TSM has a better midlaner than many other teams so that makes up for Dyrus not being better.
That should NOT be an excuse. He should be good, reguardless if his team keeps him up, because any drag down is still down. Even if a little, it'l screw them over somehow.
Naw,Daruis is playing champions he's not great with. If he could play a wu kong top or singed/renekton top he would fair way better. Its all about this patch(what Riot wants to see people playing) that mess with people like Daruis. He just needs to get ready for the next patch and learn some great top laners. Him on hecarim doesn't make sense when lulu and a bunch of other champions are available when he soo much stronger on. AHq put westdoor on his favorite champion in fizz and look how well they did. Give a person they choice of champions and watch the fireworks. Santorin ganks we're pretty bad. Telegraphed the whole way.
Has 200 games. Plays 5 top laner champions
Huni is probably the best toplaner ATM. Nobody can carry like he can. He takes over the intire game and suddenly the crowd is screaming his name. No doubt the kid is a genius.
completely agree with you. Huni and Reigover are carrying FNC games so hard
i think balls is the best top laner in na he plays many champs very well and does great for c9 (when consistent)
Well if you really think that dyrus is bad. You are wrong the reason he gets camped if you should have noticed is because he will carry the game if he does not get camped
You should be able to work through getting camped(?) and not die? He doesn't play smart. Nuf said.
Wow, and I was here thinking i'm the only one who see's Zion as the best if not.. one of the best top laner in NA. I would love to have him in TSM next season once his contract with CLG is finished.
People need to lay off Dyrus. The reasoning TSM leaves Dyrus to fend for himself is because of resources on the map. Dyrus is able to maintain presence with 0 help from Santorin because it's the team strategy. They want to focus the two carries on the team. If you actually look at Dyrus's mechanics and farm, he isn't ever behind on CS no matter how much he gets camped. He is the sacrificial sheep, and it makes sense. OMG isn't here because there's too many superstars on the team, and they haven't figured out where to pool resources, and focus attention. PS. I am not a NA fanboy at all, but please tell me you folks are actually looking at the game.
It makes sense to let your top laner go 0/6 in the first 12 minutes? And he was down cs this whole tournament. Resources for the rest of his team? If having a jungler that never ganks and doesn't even farm well, a mid laner who can't figure out how to walk through water to help his team, or an overrated ADC with a decent support get all the juicy resources is what you want then sure, Dyrus is a hero. Don't bullshi* with resources and sacrificial lamb and you're not a fanboy nonsense you're embarrassing yourself and all TSM fans. How about ward up and play as safe as possible? If they want to keep tower diving get as much farm as you can but Dyrus overextends and feeds the enemy top lane and jungler every single freaking game he plays. There are no persistent sac lambs in this game, whatever happened to real teamwork? Jungler/support come help to stop the constant tower dives but even then Dyrus would still die because his mechanics and decision making are god awful. How about you actually look at the game without the bias that TSM is so good. He maintains 0 presence with 0 help, fact. For TSM to compete with the rest of the world, drop Dyrus, Santorin, and Turtle. If nothing changes they will never win a game against C9 with Incarnati0n coming in he will embarrass Bjergesen, and Dyrus will stare at his screen in disbelief like every game at MSI. And I only bring up C9 because they're the only good team in NA with the best shot at worlds with the mid-lane change.
Honestly the main reason that TSM lose a game is Dyrus get destoried by other top laner n jungler.
Play. Safe.
just don t forget about gogoing , shy and Looper
MARIN BOYS
LOL I am the best top lane period and always will be!
Both Huni and AHQ's Top Laners put on quite the Fight against Marin, we have to be honest here, Huni's Gnar was just out of this world, he put on the fights he could when he could, FNC as a whole had by far less nerves then against EDG, and thats why they put on such a clash of titans against SKT. as for AHQ, what a match also vs SKT, if anything both Region's should have there pride restored, its not a bad defeat, its a 50/50 coin flip game that could of gone any side. now... the biggest winner of FNC and AHQ's games v.s SKT is infact EDG, EDG now will have time to observe and prepare how to defeat SKT. as EDG after all has a very simular team to FNC, just the adc role is clearly better.
For me Huni is top 1 toplaner, being at worse team, but most game he shines over everybody. EU>NA Spring split, if u dont agree, your funboy troll
after yesterday's match the best might be huni ! he carried !
Who is Ranked one in Korean Challenger solo q? enough said
Vizicsacsi is also good.
where do you put gogoing when you talk about top laners?
I'll never say Dyrus is bad I remember S3 and even 4 he was considered the best, and I still think he's great, but the meta style has completely changed and he can't keep up, but I'll always have mad respect for him.
TSM is a great team, I'm a fan of them... but, Dyrus is Dragging them down... Dyrus only carries the game if he gets fat early game. but as he is the weak point of TSM, teams always target him and ganks top MOST of the time. as you can see in tsm's plays, they always gank him...
But I get the feeling they're letting them gank him... must be a part of a plan but failed countless times. but if it IS a plan, they should change it. Cuz it'll only drag them down to the bottom. like how FNC destroyed them at the Game1 Day1 and Game8 Day1 [SKT T1 vs TSM]
I love how Dyrus plays passive, but, sometimes, it just doesnt work out and it doesnt suit him... He suits to be playing Aggressive.
um hey