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GingerBeardMan··3 votes·1,134 views

So, apparently Asian teams are just that much better than everyone else... NA and EU just can't compete with them, NA has never won a world championship... Are Americans just lazy? I don't see how that makes any sense, when these guys literally are locked in houses, they have schedules and coaches out the wazoo, I think it's just time to admit the Asian stereotype is real...

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kira magebane3 votes

There's a lot of things that goes into this. if you watch the worlds carefully, you will notice that American teams really didn't do THAT bad. we made huge improvements in the past year. we are playing on par with the chinese teams. if you look at the individual players, I dont think i have seen anyone's strat-calling that's as impressive as hai's. koreans had a head start in competitive moba games compares to the rest of the world. But we are really not that far behind them.

DrCyanide1 votes

if you look at the individual players, I dont think i have seen anyone's strat-calling that's as impressive as hai's.

Cloud 9 and TSM both were pulling out the strategies. C9 with the Zed sneak up bot lane and TSM waiting in the jungle to flank the Baron'd up enemy team. Unfortunately, both of them had slight implementation hickups which cost the play, but both were incredibly sound in theory.

With Season 5's jungle changes, I think strategy will take a bigger role in how the games play out. It'll be interesting to see how games go when the team that thinks of the best strat wins.

LessTalkMorePlay1 votes

There's a lot of things that goes into this. if you watch the worlds carefully, you will notice that American teams really didn't do THAT bad. we made huge improvements in the past year. we are playing on par with the chinese teams. if you look at the individual players, I dont think i have seen anyone's strat-calling that's as impressive as hai's. koreans had a head start in competitive moba games compares to the rest of the world. But we are really not that far behind them.

Taking away one game from particular chinese/korean teams =/ being on par with them. Winning BO3's and BO5's matter. Tho i agree that NA (C9) improved. EU on the other hand didn't improve at all.

Yandere Carry1 votes

In my opinion, NA teams ARE on par with china atm. In fact, I honestly think the current breakdown is

Samsung>China/NA/Non-Samsung Korean Teams>Kabumm>EU>RestOfWorld

LessTalkMorePlay1 votes

Its time to copy OGN format and add it to LCS so the teams will get good at playing B03's and B05's.

It should happen long time ago tbh.

A Retarded Clown1 votes

I think this is the BIG BIG thing. Riot has basically handicapped NA teams before they even get to Worlds' by forcing fast paced tournaments with no BO5's or BO3's against top teams. The entire big amalgam of one off games spammed round robin style is completely different to how Worlds' was structured.

c9 DESTROYED SSB first game but couldn't carry it on cuz....they have no BO5 experience. They didn't know how to use that adavantage to push SSB harder and instead just tried to copy that strat again because that's what works in LCS since teams don't play against each other consecutively and aren't that well studied.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

I think a lot of it is just mindset and cultural differences.

In America it's "cool" to go to parties, get drunk, hang out with your buddies and screw around. In America it's not cool to lock yourself away hermit-style and play video games. We also don't live in close quarters, and gaming with friends is more of an internet activity than a personal meet-and-greet activity.

Our culture does not promote gaming, and therefore we have a smaller pool of talent to draw from. Imagine if in high school instead of playing baseball and football, our athletes went home and played video games.

And yes, there is a correlation between athleticism and gaming ability. It takes a certain mindset and a particular IQ to be a professional athlete.

CeresX1 votes

The difference is that koreans dont do anything except eat, sleep and play whereas NA player still take time off to go have fun and stuff.

Sukishoo1 votes

Well everyone knows Azna are better at vidjya gamus

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