UEFA-like Region Ranking

Francexi·May 17, 2017·2 votes·1,079 views

Region Ranking UEFA-Like v2 * r/leagueoflegends

I tryed to calculate a region ranking following some rules similar the those used by UEFA to rate its country. Here's the results. The rules I've followed are:

Only the last 6 international tournaments Riot-organized (so far, 3 MSI and 3 Worlds) are taken into account;
MSIs gives half of the points of Worlds;
Each Round passed during Play-in stages grants 1 point for the team that passed it;
Each Match won during the Group stages grants 1 point. Tie-breakers match are not taken into account;
Each Match won during the Knockout stages grants 2 points
Qualifying to a Knockout stages grants 1 point
Each turn passed during the Knockout stages grants 1 additional point (3 total)
If a region has more than 1 team partecipant to the tournament, it gains the mean of the points of its teams.

The goal is to propose a way to exactly assign spots for Worlds, not to show which country has the best team (Worlds exists for that). Please leave a comment or a suggestion ^^

6 Comments

Ale non è maleMay 17, 20171 votes

Dude, the problem is that numeric values are completely off, and that give the result of having NA who was the worst major region in that time span considered to get the third highest score which make no sense

In UEFA ranking, you got a fixed amount of points for being qualified to group stage and the same for everybody (so that who gets in group stage through qualifier do not get more points of who is automatically qualified to group stage) and the bonus for getting to knockout phase of Champions League is double the amount of points you get for a signle win in group (4 point for getting to ro16 of Champions League compared to the 2 points you get for win), also winning a match has the same points value at any stage (of course winning more rounds net you more points)

Assuming you get a fixed amount of 2 points as bonus for qualifying to group stage (with 2 play-in rounds in new Worlds formula it should be perfect as the teams that get through play-in should have gotten 2 points anyway), and you get a 2 points bonus for qualifying to knockout stage , and you give the value of 1 point/win at any stage, let's make a calculation for 2016 Worlds as example

EU: 3 points (G2) + 3 points (Splyce) + 12 points (H2K) / 3 = 6 NA: 5 points (CLG) + 5 points ( TSM) + 7 points (C9) /3 = 5.6666666

Which is a more accurate reflection of the perfromance between the two regions at 2016 Worlds (EU narrowly beating NA thanks to H2K performance

Another example, 2015 Worlds

EU: 12 points (FNC) + 12 points (Origen) + 4 points (H2k) /3 = 9.333333 NA: 4 points (CLG) + 5 points (C9) + 3 points (TSM) /3 =4

And tbh, there is a strong argument for giving a bonus of 2 points rather than 1 for each turn passed in Knockout stage in LOL, given the lack of ro16 (Champions League)/ ro32 + ro16 (Europa league) in LOL tournaments, additional rounds which in UEFA system help rewarding more the teams that advance further (in the above calculations it would give a result of 6.33333 to EU in 2016 Worlds and 10 to EU in 2015 Worlds)

Ale non è maleMay 17, 20171 votes

Full calculation of the tournaments you considered (with 2 bonus points for each turn passed in kinockout stage)

EU = 4.333333 (2014 Worlds) + 5 (2015 MSI) + 10 (2015 Worlds) + 2 (2016 MSI) + 6.333333 ( 2016 Worlds) + 4 - before semifinals, with possibility to increase - (2017 MSI) = 31.66 NA = 7.3333333 (2014 Worlds) + 2 (2015 MSi) + 4 (2015 Worlds) + 8 (2016 MSI) + 5.666666 (2016 Worlds) + 3 (2017 MSI) = 30

Which is way more accurate reflection of region perfromances

EDIT: I am adjusting the value of 2015 MSI group stage wins to 2 points/win because that was the only tournament considered in the time span which wasn't double round robin format (it was Bo1 round robin), so results would be skewed

FrancexiMay 17, 20171 votes

Uhm, this are valid arguments. I'll try out all later adjusting the points for all the region. Thanks a lot ^^

Ale non è maleMay 20, 20171 votes

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Uhm, this are valid arguments. I'll try out all later adjusting the points for all the region. Thanks a lot ^^

After MS G2 semifinal result, EU get 2.5 additional points, so it is at 6.5 points as score for this MSI tournament in your system

FrancexiMay 22, 20171 votes

https://redd.it/6cm9x8 I've updated the system

Ale non è maleMay 22, 20171 votes

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https://redd.it/6cm9x8 I've updated the system

The COEFF thing does not make sense in this context, because it is used for a different reason in UEFA-ranking, and is used differently for clubs and national federation

The thing you picked up as COEFF, is used to rank individual teams for draw purposes in UEFA-ranking, while you are using it in Lol system for regions which are the corseponding of national federations where that thin is obviously NOT used

Given that teams change on yearly basis in UEFA competition, the teams of big countries which have more competitive leagues and have thus more chances to not qualify for a competition on a given year, would be penalized against the teams of less competitive leagues which generally have 1-2 teams often at the top of the standings (think Scottish league or Eredivisie), so to balance it out teams are given the 20% of the nation COEFF so that the teams coming from more competitive countires have a better ranking for draw purposes in comparison to teams of countries which qualify because no internal competition but do not achieve very good reuslts in international competition

The national federations ranking obviously do not have that, and the points are simply given by the number of points obtained by the teams/the number of teams

Also, aren't the calculation in reddit thread wrong with your new point system?

I mean, G2 at 2017 MSI should have:

2 points for being in group stage
4 points for group stage wins
3 points for qualifyng to Knockout stage
6 points for the 3 semifinals wins
1 point for passing 1 turn in Knockout stage (going to finals)
2 points for the lone win in finals (+ COEFF points if you are including them, but I'm not counting them now)

It's 18 points/2 = 9 (again, not counting COEFF points, which would bring the total slightly below 10 points), how the hell your result was 12/2 =6 points (not counting COEFF points)?