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I'm guessing it's practically a 1 way ticket, but is it possible to un-permaban my boards account?

IAmTheLego··1 votes·3,187 views

My original (King Lego) got perma banned.

While i can log in and play games all i want, i'm sealed off from talking here which leaves me to this alternative account where i can't even upvote things that are smart and downvote things that are too stupid to even read.

And before you ask, no i ain't gonna play to level this account up. I deleted this stinking game months ago. You can blame game balance for that though.

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ModThe Djinn10 votes

As the account in question received 22 deletions within a space of three months and your posts in this thread contain comments such as this:

We got mods being too much of shining armor to rioters who don't even deserve defending.

Have you seen CT interview? Makes you want to drink a bottle of cyanide from his dumbass and toxic mindset.

I'm afraid unbanning your account is not something I will be willing to do at this time. While we do consider unbanning players who have demonstrated an understanding of what their behavioral issues were and a shift in said behavior, that is clearly not the case here. I will also caution you that continued behavior like that quoted by me above will likely lead to a rapid permanent suspension of this account, as it is already exhibiting behavior similar to the behavior that caused your old account to be banned.

IAmTheLego1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vi6LNJGf,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-20T20:26:58.990+0000)

As the account in question received 22 deletions within a space of three months and your posts in this thread contain comments such as this:

I'm afraid unbanning your account is not something I will be willing to do at this time. While we do consider unbanning players who have demonstrated an understanding of what their behavioral issues were and a shift in said behavior, that is clearly not the case here. I will also caution you that continued behavior like that quoted by me above will likely lead to a rapid permanent suspension of this account, as it is already exhibiting behavior similar to the behavior that caused your old account to be banned.

Yeah but ask yourself this: I've got a good enough reason on why and still stand on what I said.

You expect us to act all angels while allowing rioters like CT run rampant with their toxic mindset? Watch the interview if you haven't.

It pissed me off to the point I didn't bother finishing the video.

If so then very well. Perma ban me. No point in trying I suppose.

ModThe Djinn5 votes

{quoted}Yeah but ask yourself this: I've got a good enough reason on why and still stand on what I said.

I have no problem with you voicing your concerns and opinions, as long as you do so in a way that follows the board rules. Critique can be given without insult, harassment, or abuse. If you don't agree or can't bring yourself to do so, I will ask you to find another venue to share your thoughts.

IAmTheLego1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vi6LNJGf,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T20:58:55.431+0000)

I have no problem with you voicing your concerns and opinions, as long as you do so in a way that follows the board rules. Critique can be given without insult, harassment, or abuse. If you don't agree or can't bring yourself to do so, I will ask you to find another venue to share your thoughts.

Oh look around you my friend. I'm not the only one who tried. I tried as much as i could to be all Einstein and Shakespeare on my words, but did riot bother? Or did CT even bother or start consider players' frustration?

Here's the short answer: No.

The opinion can be mature according to the rule. But keep it ignored long enough it will mutate into something toxic. And that's what just happened.

ModThe Djinn7 votes

I am not here to tell CertainlyT what he should think or how he should communicate with the community. My own thoughts on the matter are also irrelevant to this current situation. The long and short of it is that if you are using the boards you are expected to follow the board rules, even when you do not think they are appropriate. Failure to do so will lead to a suspension of board privileges.

IAmTheLego1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vi6LNJGf,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T21:07:46.278+0000)

I am not here to tell CertainlyT what he should think or how he should communicate with the community. My own thoughts on the matter are also irrelevant to this current situation. The long and short of it is that if you are using the boards you are expected to follow the board rules, even when you do not think they are appropriate. Failure to do so will lead to a suspension of board privileges.

1 thing I learned is that asking politely is the right thing. But sometimes not being polite is the correct answer when it comes to trying to pass on something to a company that seems to be clueless on what they are doing.

It's funny really. They make rules and all yet there's a saying "rules were made to be broken". That's why countries have laws rather than rules.

Curious isn't it? Such a beefy topic. But on game and company that's probably a lost cause. Sad.

ModThe Djinn5 votes

I'm afraid the philosophy that rules were made to be broken, while one that you are allowed to have, will result in punishment if acted upon in this environment. I speak from a position of some knowledge when I say that breaking the rules here will result in a loss of access to the boards.

IAmTheLego1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vi6LNJGf,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T21:27:33.252+0000)

I'm afraid the philosophy that rules were made to be broken, while one that you are allowed to have, will result in punishment if acted upon in this environment. I speak from a position of some knowledge when I say that breaking the rules here will result in a loss of access to the boards.

Go by the law and order officer Djinn.

I'll be happy to be the villain here.

Tahngarthor1 votes

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Go by the law and order officer Djinn.

I'll be happy to be the villain here.

Man why are you so bitter? If that chip on your shoulder was any bigger you wouldn't have a shoulder anymore. Is it really that hard to say (regarding the incident you're complaining about) "This rioter is being toxic on the boards, can you do something please?" instead of "this rioter's being a (*#$ing jerk, fire them or bleeping bleepity bleep bleep them." I mean, that's really all you have to do. I have seen a few cases of rioters not putting their best foot forward, to put it simply, but your behavior is just as bad if not worse than any i've seen from any official post. You can't fight fire with fire and expect not to be punished yourself.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Man why are you so bitter? If that chip on your shoulder was any bigger you wouldn't have a shoulder anymore. Is it really that hard to say (regarding the incident you're complaining about) "This rioter is being toxic on the boards, can you do something please?" instead of "this rioter's being a (*#$ing jerk, fire them or bleeping bleepity bleep bleep them." I mean, that's really all you have to do. I have seen a few cases of rioters not putting their best foot forward, to put it simply, but your behavior is just as bad if not worse than any i've seen from any official post. You can't fight fire with fire and expect not to be punished yourself.

I tried being civilised all I could and as long as I could. And countless others too.

But did riot do anything? Nah.

If riot is not gonna consider players frustrations especially with CT champions, then what's the point of being civilised and polite for that matter?

rujitra2 votes

They do consider the frustrations of the playerbase as a whole.

They will not make League exactly how you want it when your goals for it are not in line with what the rest of the community wants.

The highest votes posts in the boards have a few thousand votes. Similar on Reddit and elsewhere. And they are not scientific samplings of the community. Riot does studies that statistically sample the community both in client and via email, and they act on those results, not the bandwagons of the boards or Reddit.

Sometimes you have to accept in life you won't get what you want. The answer to this is not to be an asshole to try to get what you want. Especially once it's made clear to you that Riot isn't going to do what you want.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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They do consider the frustrations of the playerbase as a whole.

They will not make League exactly how you want it when your goals for it are not in line with what the rest of the community wants.

The highest votes posts in the boards have a few thousand votes. Similar on Reddit and elsewhere. And they are not scientific samplings of the community. Riot does studies that statistically sample the community both in client and via email, and they act on those results, not the bandwagons of the boards or Reddit.

Sometimes you have to accept in life you won't get what you want. The answer to this is not to be an asshole to try to get what you want. Especially once it's made clear to you that Riot isn't going to do what you want.

Sure. Literally most of the community say that damage is high through the roof, defensive are useless, one shot fiestas are unfun, team fights are just 2 seconds long, etc.

They are listening to the community for sure.

Don't make me laugh with this bs.

Tahngarthor1 votes

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Yeah but ask yourself this: I've got a good enough reason on why and still stand on what I said.

You expect us to act all angels while allowing rioters like CT run rampant with their toxic mindset? Watch the interview if you haven't.

It pissed me off to the point I didn't bother finishing the video.

If so then very well. Perma ban me. No point in trying I suppose.

You can complain about things and be unhappy about things and express your unhappiness without being deliberately insulting. There's a difference between asking you to be an angel and simply asking you to rein in the bad attitude a bit.

And if you have a problem with a Riot employee, you should report it rather than make a public scene about it.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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You can complain about things and be unhappy about things and express your unhappiness without being deliberately insulting. There's a difference between asking you to be an angel and simply asking you to rein in the bad attitude a bit.

And if you have a problem with a Riot employee, you should report it rather than make a public scene about it.

Oh sure here I'll send a support ticket.

Me: hey rito, CT is a terrible designer and I don't think he should be making champions.

Rito: we will look into it.

Great idea buddy!

Tahngarthor2 votes

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Oh sure here I'll send a support ticket.

Me: hey rito, CT is a terrible designer and I don't think he should be making champions.

Rito: we will look into it.

Great idea buddy!

Your response to everything is sarcasm and hyperbole. You must be fun at parties...

Your only obligation is to report. Not make a witch hunt.You can argue that nothing will be done, but the only 100% guarantee of no result is to do nothing (and perhaps whine on the forum). If reporting doesn't do anything, oh well, you tried. Pursuing it any further isn't any less of a waste of your time than the report was in that case.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Your response to everything is sarcasm and hyperbole. You must be fun at parties...

Your only obligation is to report. Not make a witch hunt.You can argue that nothing will be done, but the only 100% guarantee of no result is to do nothing (and perhaps whine on the forum). If reporting doesn't do anything, oh well, you tried. Pursuing it any further isn't any less of a waste of your time than the report was in that case.

What can I say? Sarcasm is love sarcasm is life.

Yeah big whoop. Safe to say I chose a 3rd option and say "screw you riot, dumbass company" since they are not willing to fix their stinking game.

Tahngarthor2 votes

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What can I say? Sarcasm is love sarcasm is life.

Yeah big whoop. Safe to say I chose a 3rd option and say "screw you riot, dumbass company" since they are not willing to fix their stinking game.

Yet you're still here, so obviously riot "not fixing their stinking game" isn't a dealbreaker for you.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Yet you're still here, so obviously riot "not fixing their stinking game" isn't a dealbreaker for you.

Being on boards and not have league on my laptop aren't the same.

Seeing what's new and what's happening doesn't require me to play the game.

Marshbouy2 votes

Normally I'm not a fan of the moderation here but it looks like you made the right choice, my lord.

Myrmiron1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vi6LNJGf,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-20T20:26:58.990+0000)

As the account in question received 22 deletions within a space of three months and your posts in this thread contain comments such as this:

I'm afraid unbanning your account is not something I will be willing to do at this time. While we do consider unbanning players who have demonstrated an understanding of what their behavioral issues were and a shift in said behavior, that is clearly not the case here. I will also caution you that continued behavior like that quoted by me above will likely lead to a rapid permanent suspension of this account, as it is already exhibiting behavior similar to the behavior that caused your old account to be banned.

Wasn't ban evasion against the rules too?

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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Wasn't ban evasion against the rules too?

Ban evasion to continue the same behavior is against the rules, yes. Please rest assured that in situations like this we have things under control. I am not in the habit of banning people for asking questions without engaging in appropriate discourse about their concerns, even when/if their behaviors may merit digging into at a later date.

Myrmiron1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vi6LNJGf,comment-id=000300020000,timestamp=2019-03-21T00:16:44.268+0000)

Ban evasion to continue the same behavior is against the rules, yes. Please rest assured that in situations like this we have things under control. I am not in the habit of banning people for asking questions without engaging in appropriate discourse about their concerns, even when/if their behaviors may merit digging into at a later date.

That's fine, was just wondering.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/pXjYbyEy-how-to-flame-without-actually-flaming

I just can't figure out why you got banned.

No. I was perma for talking about CT and saying he desveres to be fired. Which I still think he does.

That one was just for memes really. Nothing else. Too bad sense of humor is not everybody's own thing.

Schoenberg2 votes

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No. I was perma for talking about CT and saying he desveres to be fired. Which I still think he does.

That one was just for memes really. Nothing else. Too bad sense of humor is not everybody's own thing.

Yes. Gonna go out on a limb here and say that THE WAY you were talking about CT was what got you the ban hammer.

Weird sense of humor. It'd really be quite a boring world if everyone's sense of humor was same. You're a special one, you are.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Yes. Gonna go out on a limb here and say that THE WAY you were talking about CT was what got you the ban hammer.

Weird sense of humor. It'd really be quite a boring world if everyone's sense of humor was same. You're a special one, you are.

Well, i tried countless times to be civilized (and so did many) about many certain topics involving CT and his champions.

But did riot listen? No.

It took them nearly a year to remove Akali's true stealth mechanic which if you ask me is poor attention on feedbacks.

You expect us, or in this case me, to stay all "CT should try to this and that rito...pls rito i suggest this and that"?

Well no i don't think so. If riot is gonna keep a toxic designer, making toxic champions, they will get a toxic environment.

Schoenberg2 votes

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Well, i tried countless times to be civilized (and so did many) about many certain topics involving CT and his champions.

But did riot listen? No.

It took them nearly a year to remove Akali's true stealth mechanic which if you ask me is poor attention on feedbacks.

You expect us, or in this case me, to stay all "CT should try to this and that rito...pls rito i suggest this and that"?

Well no i don't think so. If riot is gonna keep a toxic designer, making toxic champions, they will get a toxic environment.

How is being uncivilized going to help you better communicate your opinion? Curious.

Riot has to listen to you. You must be someone pretty darn important, then.

I don't pay attention to balance, so I can't say anything on the matter. If it's as you say, yes, it's very poor attention to feedback.

Yes.

There's a difference between what CT creates(which, rest assured, is pretty cancer) and what you choose to post on the boards.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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How is being uncivilized going to help you better communicate your opinion? Curious.

Riot has to listen to you. You must be someone pretty darn important, then.

I don't pay attention to balance, so I can't say anything on the matter. If it's as you say, yes, it's very poor attention to feedback.

Yes.

There's a difference between what CT creates(which, rest assured, is pretty cancer) and what you post on the boards.

Curious. There are many ways really. Remember when riot ignored top lane for so long that hashinshin lashed out and said to kill themselves? Funny at 1st but you can't blame him really. Point is, ignore feedbacks, frustration and concerns and you'll end up with a volcano rising up your ass.

"I don't pay attention to balance, so I can't say anything on the matter. If it's as you say, yes, it's very poor attention to feedback." And that's something that makes the community toxic. May not be the only source, but it's one of the cause.

And i never said what i do is the same as CT. I rather die than be like him. But his sort of thinking is what shaped my thinking about him. And my thinking is he doesn't belong in riot games.

Schoenberg2 votes

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Curious. There are many ways really. Remember when riot ignored top lane for so long that hashinshin lashed out and said to kill themselves? Funny at 1st but you can't blame him really. Point is, ignore feedbacks, frustration and concerns and you'll end up with a volcano rising up your ass.

"I don't pay attention to balance, so I can't say anything on the matter. If it's as you say, yes, it's very poor attention to feedback." And that's something that makes the community toxic. May not be the only source, but it's one of the cause.

And i never said what i do is the same as CT. I rather die than be like him. But his sort of thinking is what shaped my thinking about him. And my thinking is he doesn't belong in riot games.

You didn't explain why it helps? You just said, "Many ways" and then gave a completely irrelevant example. Pretty sure correlation doesn't mean causation. Did he help in a way? Probably. Because of his KYS statement? No. Yes, when feedback is ignored, the volcano comes rising up a company's arse. It's a volcano that's less "KYS" and more "We really don't like this and would you stop ignoring the feedback, riot?" or "Balance team is joke" rather than "balance team is (insert expletive)."

Wait, what makes the community toxic? Not paying attention to balance? Pretty sure most peeps on the boards pay attention to the subject MUCH more than I do and even if they didn't pay attention to balance, how would that make them toxic?

"Well no i don't think so. If riot is gonna keep a toxic designer, making toxic champions, they will get a toxic environment." You said that if CT is going to be a toxic designer, he's going to get a toxic community. It's what he deserves, right? Or did you mean something else?

And I replied, "There's a difference between what CT creates(which, rest assured, is pretty cancer) and what you choose to post on the boards." Maybe I should've said, "There's a difference between what CT creates(which, rest assured, is pretty cancer) and what folks like you choose to post on the boards." Maybe, "There's a difference between his toxic and your toxic?"

Your thinking is what's currently shaping my thinking about you. Pretty sure that's how everyone's thinking works.

IAmTheLego2 votes

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You didn't explain anything why it helps? You just said, "Many ways" and then gave a completely irrelevant example. Pretty sure correlation doesn't mean causation. Did he help in a way? Probably. Because of his KYS statement? No. Yes, when feedback is ignored, the volcano comes rising up a company's arse. It's a volcano that's less "KYS" and more "We really don't like this and would you stop ignoring the feedback, riot?" or "Balance team is joke" rather than "balance team is (insert expletive)."

Wait, what makes the community toxic? Not paying attention to balance? Pretty sure most peeps on the boards pay attention to the subject MUCH more than I do and even if they didn't pay attention to balance, how would that make them toxic?

"Well no i don't think so. If riot is gonna keep a toxic designer, making toxic champions, they will get a toxic environment." You said that if CT is going to be a toxic designer, he's going to get a toxic community. It's what he deserves, right? Or did you mean something else?

And I replied, "There's a difference between what CT creates(which, rest assured, is pretty cancer) and what you choose to post on the boards." Maybe I should've said, "There's a difference between what CT creates(which, rest assured, is pretty cancer) and what folks like you choose to post on the boards." Maybe, "There's a difference between his toxic and your toxic?"

Your thinking is what's currently shaping my thinking about you. Pretty sure that's how everyone's thinking works.

The sad thing about why or even how it's gonna help is that...it won't. Riot will ignore nonetheless. Just continue what makes them feel happy and release prestige skins or some shit and make balance changes that makes you question if their IQ is above average.

Honestly it pissed me off and I tried to be a better person for this game and community but as I realised it's pointless I decided to just be a toxic a-hole in this game and community. Can't say I'm the same in real life though.

My thinking changed long ago. Not to the good. But it doesn't affect my personal life for that matter.

Schoenberg1 votes

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The sad thing about why or even how it's gonna help is that...it won't. Riot will ignore nonetheless. Just continue what makes them feel happy and release prestige skins or some shit and make balance changes that makes you question if their IQ is above average.

Honestly it pissed me off and I tried to be a better person for this game and community but as I realised it's pointless I decided to just be a toxic a-hole in this game and community. Can't say I'm the same in real life though.

My thinking changed long ago. Not to the good. But it doesn't affect my personal life for that matter.

They do listen, it just takes the eruption of a specific volcano and the destruction of a certain hole.

It takes some toughness to remain positive vs. defaulting to indifference or even toxicity. Or at least it's harder to remain positive.

Have a hard time not letting my attitude in a game affect my mood in real life here. Props to you!

IAmTheLego2 votes

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They do listen, it just takes the eruption of a specific volcano and the destruction of a certain hole.

It takes some toughness to remain positive vs. defaulting to indifference or even toxicity. Or at least it's harder to remain positive.

Have a hard time not letting my attitude in a game affect my mood in real life here. Props to you!

Toughness to stay positive for as long as possible. But sometimes wisdom to just say "fuck it" point the middle finger and leave the game for good.

Season 8 was a disaster season and season 9 wasn't going to be any different that I deleted the game before it even started.

Never been happier or this at peace since there is no more league of legends icon appearing on my laptop screen.

Commader Kiwi1 votes

Lol, whats the difference from being able to talk from your spam account, and your ex - main acc? You're lucky riot is letting you keep this account

IAmTheLego1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prestiged Kat ,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vi6LNJGf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-20T19:21:24.549+0000)

Lol, whats the difference from being able to talk from your spam account, and your ex - main acc? You're lucky riot is letting you keep this account

No...my main is what I call...iconic.

Has 2 of my most viewed posts ever which I dearly admire (Well not so much).

Riot's not even bothering with this for feedback so why even apply rules?

Hethalean1 votes

Personally, I've always found the notion that people expect / can get their accounts PERMANENTLY banned accounts unbanned. Kind of takes away from the classification imo.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Personally, I've always found the notion that people expect / can get their accounts PERMANENTLY banned accounts unbanned. Kind of takes away from the classification imo.

For matches maybe. But boards, saying a Rioter deserves to be fired shouldn't be against the rules since you're voicing an opinion that's somehow considered being a jerk and a form of harassment which btw is not how they even work.

rujitra2 votes

Um, how the hell is asking for someone's life to be ruined because you are scapegoating them for a decision made by multiple people not harassment?

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Um, how the hell is asking for someone's life to be ruined because you are scapegoating them for a decision made by multiple people not harassment?

You're asking me? If I'm making shit champions and know it and think frustration is a positive thing in this game, then I should be fired for it. Nevermind if you got bills to pay or kids to feed. Do your job poorly, and you deserve to be fired.

No really. Watch the CT interview. He legit thinks that frustration should be there. Coming from someone who doesn't understand what PvP is, it's no surprise.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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Um, how the hell is asking for someone's life to be ruined because you are scapegoating them for a decision made by multiple people not harassment?

You're asking me? If I'm making shit champions and know it and think frustration is a positive thing in this game, then I should be fired for it.

No really. Watch the CT interview. He legit thinks that frustration should be there. Coming from someone who doesn't understand what PvP is, it's no surprise.

DrCyanide1 votes

I was under the impression nothing stopped a permabanned account from posting - something seen time and again on Player Behavior posts.

I believe forum bans can be overturned, but that's something you appeal with the mods.

IAmTheLego1 votes

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I was under the impression nothing stopped a permabanned account from posting - something seen time and again on Player Behavior posts.

I believe forum bans can be overturned, but that's something you appeal with the mods.

We got mods being too much of shining armor to rioters who don't even deserve defending.

Have you seen CT interview? Makes you want to drink a bottle of cyanide from his dumbass and toxic mindset.

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