Is this really a justified suspension?

RuFiot·Oct 18, 2018·2 votes·1,963 views

So this happened right before the suspension - I had my usual annoying debates with someone, and he happens to be a mod, In the end of the conversation he said - (the conversation was about the validity of the IFS)

They've shared their data with 3rd party research institutes upon request. ... So far, every 3rd party has confirmed that it works as intended, and that Riot's statements about their systems are correct.

ofc I asked for resources, he didn't replied back, so it is a valid assumption he just got angry and lied only to "win an argument" and by me asking for sources it just showed.

After few hours, in a different post, someone said he is quitting league and deleting his account, I said -

I think you can sell it instead of deleting it

And boom suspension (no warning no nothing), I have no prior warnings or anything in his forum and I'm sure I can find plenty other threads in which someone say they think someone can do something that isn't in the TOS,

From that, I'm sorry for the language, it is obvious that he got butt hurt and leashed out on me with the power he posses, I don't think he fits to be a mod, a lot of people are annoying, as a mod you should know that and not let your pettiness get the better of you.

This is the person I'm talking about - https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/EUW/Hansiman

If I'm in the wrong place can you please guide me to where should I post this?

EDIT: For future references, this is the place you should go - https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751634-Boards-Suspensions

8 Comments

ModThe DjinnOct 18, 20183 votes

Do not post content advocating or soliciting violations of the Terms of Use, Summoner’s Code, or Board Rules. Players encouraging this sort of behavior will be punished as if they had engaged in it themselves.

This comment is directly from the Board Universal Rules, and is standard enforcement. We reliably hit this when it is reported or seen.

That said, the individual you linked to is NOT a member of the NA moderation team, so I'm not sure what's going on here, nor can I find a removal like this in your violation history. Was this on another account, or on the EUW boards?

RuFiotOct 18, 20181 votes

on the EUW boards?

Yes, the EUW boards don't have discuss the boards, so I thought here is where you suppose to report moderators (like the 'Client Discussion' and 'Dev' are linked from the EUW to this board), if it isn't here can you please guide me to where?

Do not post content advocating or soliciting violations of the Terms of Use,...

I see that you are not related to the matter, but can you still answer me -

what your team would have done if someone said he thinks that people can do something (and turns out that it not allowed from the TOS),

like - "I think he can sell his account", "I think that if your team banned your champ you should ban theirs"(<- suggestion to troll )

Is that always a suspension? (when not?) do you have rules on how to punish, when and on what, that you are willing to share?

nor can I find a removal like this in your violation history.

Weird I can see it when i press the '!' button in the NA boards (the button near your name where it also shows all your unread messages, the messages show me only the NA or EUW depending on the forum I'm at, but the violations are the same in both)

ModThe DjinnOct 18, 20182 votes

{quoted}Yes, the EUW boards don't have discuss the boards, so I thought here is where you suppose to report moderators (like the 'Client Discussion' and 'Dev' are linked from the EUW to this board), if it isn't here can you please guide me to where?

I do not know if the EUW boards have such a thing, as the moderation teams are completely separate, and the features one region has are not necessarily the features another has. This board is for NA issues only, as we cannot help you with other regional issues.

what your team would have done if someone said he thinks that people can do something (and turns out that it not allowed from the TOS),

like - "I think he can sell his account", "I think that if your team banned your champ you should ban theirs"(<- suggestion to troll )

Is that always a suspension? (when not?) do you have rules on how to punish, when and on what, that you are willing to share?

It's largely up to moderator discretion in those case. A suggestion to troll is bad, but a hard violation of the terms of use (like account sharing, 3rd part software use, or account sales) is definitely worse. We'd probably take a look at past history to see whether it's a legitimate situation where someone is unsure, or a situation where we're pretty sure the player knows better and is posting with the intent to have someone break the rules.

RuFiotOct 18, 20181 votes

Ty for your time, I guess I will try a support ticket

MahouSenseiiOct 19, 20182 votes

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Ty for your time, I guess I will try a support ticket

wont work they will just give you some random reason they will never admit they are wrong

RuFiotOct 19, 20181 votes

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wont work they will just give you some random reason they will never admit they are wrong

Yeah probably, but those things pile up

GallOct 18, 20181 votes

You should know the rules say you can't name another player in a negative fashion, so this post will likely be locked soon. You should also know that warnings are not typically given, and you should never expect one according to the TOS. Lastly, you should know you cannot suggest an alternative method to another player that breaks any rule of the TOS, which includes account selling. I say you should know these things because you are agreeing to the universal board rules by posting on the boards to begin with.

I'm also confused about your post. The first part does not correlate to the second, so I am not sure why it is even mentioned. I don't know anything about IFS, but getting into a dispute with a mod will never result in unfair treatment unless you resort to ad hominems. You didn't, so there is no reason to mention it here since it did not play a role in the suspension.

RuFiotOct 18, 20181 votes

You should know the rules say you can't name another player in a negative fashion, so this post will likely be locked soon.

You cannot name a player cause you already filed a report on him and shaming on boards don't do anything except punishing him (and it not for you to do), that is not the case here, I file a report on this guy so I need to say who he is, no? and they can just delete his name and not lock my post

You should also know that warnings are not typically given, and you should never expect one according to the TOS.

I don't think that is true, anyways a normal way of conduct is to warn someone first (on small misbehavior, like the tire punishment system here, like the way the judge will handle you if it is your first offence).

Lastly, you should know you cannot suggest an alternative method to another player that breaks any rule of the TOS, which includes account selling.

Do you think if someone say- they think someone can do something that isn't in the TOS he should get suspended right away?

if I say something like "I think you can say gay in chat people use that word all the time" should I get suspended for it? or maybe corrected upon it? or just warned?

I say you should know these things because you are agreeing to the universal board rules by posting on the boards to begin with.

So you say everyone reads the TOS on every product they use.

I'm also confused about your post. The first part does not correlate to the second,

I think you know why I mentioned it, you said it yourself -

getting into a dispute with a mod will never result in unfair treatment unless you resort to ad hominems.

I 100% agree it shouldn't, I have never resorted to ad hominems remarks in the conversation, that is the whole reason I have this post, I do think in this case a dispute with a mod resulted in unfair treatment