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Herald said you can do something than I got ticket doing it

RuFiot·10/27/2018, 2:00:22 PM·3 votes·2,368 views

The ticket

We've recently removed your post for violating the Boards Universal Rules, particularly regarding Naming and Shaming.

Your removed content:

Is this moderator named Ulanopo ?

As the Boards is a community platform, we encourage posts that foster discussion and discourage any posts that may lead to witch-hunting or personal attacks. I get that you have an issue with a certain mod, but that's not something to call them out for publicly. We have a discord to handle disputes; please use it if you feel you need to discuss problems with an individual.

(I added the bold line)

The context of the ticket

In the same post I got moderated on there was this conversation -

Person:

So if I had an issue with a specific moderator who is continuously abusive of his/her power with a few messages and evidence to support it, where would I voice those concerns as to not make a public bashing section in the boards? XD

Hearld: (as a response to person, I added the bold lines)

Moderators get a bit more public critique, so you could indeed make a post here as long as it is ultimately a respectful listing of grievances and not a series of personal attacks. The Discuss the Boards Discord (link in the Board sidebar) is also an acceptable place to come let us know about any issues you may have.

Me: (as a response to person, (the ticket comment))

Is this moderator named Ulanopo ?

Why I'm in the clear

Where I was disrespectful? I asked cause I wanted to give him some more material and offer my help in his case against him cause I think the same as him, Herald just said it is ok to say the name in public with bad context while being respectful so I mentioned the name in public with a bad context but wasn't disrespectful.

21 Comments

Imperial Pandaa10/27/2018, 2:47:48 PM9 votes

Also not in a respectful way.

Alternatives could have been as simple as "What mod is it?" That is probably the best approach instead of specifically naming a moderator with a first post. Probably similar to someone making a post complaining about posters some may consider troll and me going "Is one of them RuFiot?" (As an example; I don't actually think you are a troll).

Another alternative could be expanding the post. "I have also had some issues with moderation, specifically with Ulanopo. Exampels of such include x, y, and z. (Or a link to a post you made)". Now, there is a chance that you could get a flag for attempt to hijack the thread. As, and correct me if I am wrong, the thread was more focused on who monitors moderators and their actions. As opposed to specifically talking about specific moderators and their actions.

So it is probably more a wrong place to specifically call someone outl.

Eleshakai10/27/2018, 4:47:21 PM6 votes

You might need to learn the definition of 'respect', OP. I believe a deeper understanding on that concept would help you to understand why that post was moderated.

mlm olo mlm10/27/2018, 3:37:21 PM2 votes

Is this moderator named Ulanopo ?

That is the only thing the moderators removed?

That is not being disrespectful. Hell, it's being respectful because it doesn't jump to conclusions.

RuFiot10/27/2018, 9:14:56 PM1 votes

Fine by me, in-conclusion post -

Herald sentence you can mention a moderator by name and explain why you are not happy with him

Me inferring from this that you can publicly say you are not happy with the moderator ( mentioning his name in that context was like I said I'm not happy with him) if you have a good reason for doing that (even without explanation) e.g. for the intention of gathering more data,

**Rational - Why I think it is reasonable to infer that - ** in both cases we are mentioning a person in a bad (not personal) context to achieve a productive conversation about him, in the Herald case it is the productive conversation step in my case it is a preparation step to the productive conversation.

From the comments and after thinking about it a little I got problems with my Rational -

Reminding a person in a bad context suppose to be a delicate matter and a public preparation step is not in place, also people can use the reason of "preparation step, gathering data" to, like the herald said, piggy-backing on legitimate posts to insult people, while they don't really want the data, they just want to insult.