Idea for Fiddlesticks Passive Change

HavinAGiggle·May 26, 2014·8 votes·1,139 views

Obviously, Fiddlesticks isn't on the list for upcoming VUs or anything but I can feel that we'll be seeing one sometime rather soon. I just had this idea for a while so it doesn't hurt to get it out there.
Edit: Since this thread is becoming more popular than I thought, I figured I should put a little more effort into the passive.

~~New Passive - Fear Hunter (Or something like that)~~
Whenever Fiddlesticks casts an ability, he summons a crow that will follow him (capped at 5). When an enemy champion gets within range, a crow will fly to the target, reducing their magic resist for 8 seconds when they collide. Champions are immune to further crow attacks while their magic resistance is reduced.

New Passive - Fear Hunter (Or something like that)
Whenever Fiddlesticks is out of combat for X seconds, he summons a crow every X seconds that follow him. Whenever an enemy champion gets within X range of Fiddlesticks, a crow will fly to the target, reducing their magic resist by X and marking them with Fear Hunter for X seconds. Fearing targets marked with Fear Hunter increase the duration by X seconds.

Just an idea for something. It still stays in line with Fiddle's current passive which is useful to him so I didn't want to take that way from him. I just wanted to make it more... interesting? Interactive? Yes, those words work. Anywho, got my idea out there so I'm happy. Yay!

14 Comments

JackYAquaMay 26, 20143 votes

I like it :3
Though it does sound like a rip off and a nerf...
Nevertheless :
I LIKE IT :3

HavinAGiggleMay 26, 20141 votes

And that's why I'm not a champion designer :P

JackYAquaMay 26, 20144 votes

Oh really ? ^^
I think making things sound like a rip off and a nerf is a core requirement for being a champion designer at Riot :)
Edit : this was a joke ;(

HavinAGiggleMay 26, 20142 votes

Shots fired!
+1 respect.

TamarroBizzarroMay 26, 20141 votes

BOOM

ThalesMay 26, 20142 votes

Some issues with this. The best case scenario has this functioning basically identically to his current passive, albeit with probably higher numbers. If Fiddles has a murder of crows, there's no gameplay to the passive. And in most cases (Fiddles appearing out of the jungle to gank, Fiddles flanking a team with his ult), he should have a full charge.

This also has the downside of forcing Fiddles to spam his spells, even when more strategic use would be desired. Especially for support Fiddles, it's not always advantageous or even possible to use his spells. Support Fiddles, always having two targets near, would have a very hard time keeping charges up for actual engages.

The travel time of the crow is another issue. Fiddles's W and R hit instantaneously for the first tick of damage, and E has a decently fast particle. Fiddles would ult into range of his passive, use E and W... and a bit of that damage would be unenhanced by his passive. This would lead to some really counterintuitive gameplay patterns to maximize his damage, something Riot would probably want to avoid.

I certainly agree that he could use a more interesting passive, and maybe even a rework. His passive and Q have a lot of power tied up in relatively uninteresting ways, and his E is just weird by modern design standards.

HavinAGiggleMay 26, 20141 votes

Yeah, I'd expect there to be a lot of problems with my idea since I didn't really flesh it out. All that comes to mind when I think of Fiddle is some scary-ass scarecrow demon dude that hunts you down with a flock (or murder) of crows by his side, kinda like how he was portrayed in the cinematic a while back. I'm sure there's better ideas out there in both functionality and mechanics.

Dejair a vtnc OPMay 26, 20141 votes

nice... i like it 2

CaptainKempsMay 26, 20141 votes

Love it, I honestly do think its fair since its temporary yet the passive now you need to be really close for it to trigger, and it goes away right when they walk out of range... So yeah, fair, cool idea, would make fiddlesticks for fun <3 Like for you!

Edgy AngstLordMay 27, 20141 votes

TBH, I was about to come in here to bash any idea of changing Fiddlestick's passive (because, you know - I'm a Fiddles main, I've played over 150 games with him from last season and this season, yaddayadda), but I actually like the sound of this. >:3

HavinAGiggleMay 27, 20141 votes

Don't you worry, Fiddle was my second main (after Singed) back when I started playing. I wouldn't do anything to ruin him.

G4057May 27, 20141 votes

I think the crow should do small percent damage buff and minor slow to enemy champions, capped at 5 crows spawning every spell cast. I think it should last 5 seconds.

HavinAGiggleMay 27, 20141 votes

Come to think of it... hmmm, idea...

ManchetteMay 27, 20141 votes

Fiddlesticks' fear lasts 2.25 seconds at level 5. This already allows him to get his full R-Q-E-W combo off. Adding to the fear duration, which is extremely long, would make him overpowered.

If he can get his full combo off with the fear duration he has now, would it really be balanced if he could do this and then get his silence off again?

Does he honestly need to be this powerful, even when he can hold his own as he is now?