Regarding Elise

Fisk·7/25/2014, 12:14:59 AM·3 votes·1,039 views

As an avid elise player I feel responsible to write this post. If the nerfs to elise on PBE go through I'm afraid she's not gonna be viable... At all. She will be like shaco if they do. Her early game will still be somewhat strong but her late game will be terrible. Lolking me. I'm terrible with elise this season (especially after massive amounts of nerfs to her, most if not all well deserved) BUT it certainly is not because my early game. I lose often despite doing well early on elise simply because right now her late game is somewhat atrocious... She just builds tank (keyword is builds) even though she's more of a mage because her scalings are depressing. Her only real strength is awesome pick power with cocoon and great percent damage meaning she can build full tank w/ sorc shoes and still do well. Also late game she can just rappel onto the enemy ADC and burst them as fast as she can. But now both of these things are being taken away so late game she will essentially be a meat shield which isn't even as possible since changes to SotAG. She's really not even very strong right now the only reason she is picked so much is because her ability to abuse other junglers early game. We even saw this in pro play last week after the SotAG changes came in. She was picked 9 times and only won TWO times. She was PICKED in half the games last week and came out with a 22% win rate after an ITEM nerf. That's only going to go lower after the rework.. She is just being picked for her safe early vs other aggro jungles and her strong early game vs non aggro jungles. I agree she needs changes but she needs early game nerfs and late game buffs not vice versa. I think elise is only picked because aggro junglers are strong not because she is strong. So please do change but she still is probably gonna need compensation buffs.

6 Comments

CainRising7/25/2014, 4:14:56 PM1 votes

Do you think for a level 17 summoner that Elise would still be fun and enjoyable?

Elise still does well in her games in the LCS. She is one of the few jungle tanks left, and she has a wide skill set. Elise is fun to play top, if jungle isn't viable.

I hope this helps. (I only played her a couple times when she was free, and now Im saving up for her with IP, so I'm not an expert :)

exiledFromBadmen7/25/2014, 11:14:16 PM1 votes

I was learning Elise and... BOOM NERF! She will be UNVIABLE if Riot do those nerfs. Previous nerfs, her playstyle just changed like Rengar, but she needed some little buffs about her MS. I agree with you about pick causes, she's not as strong as JarvanIV or Vi at late game. She's just good vs LeeSin , Evelynn etc. She has pitiful damage except her spider Q, has utility due to her Rappel, but terrible AP ratios because of nerfs. Her ranges became her utility (?) She is not so good but good against early aggression junglers. If Riot nerfs LeeSin and/or Evelynn, Elise 's pick rates will be dropped. There's no need to nerf Elise . Please Elise shouldn't go unviable

Note: Before Elise , my main at jungle was Evelynn , followed by Shyvana, which is a bad jungler about ganks with amazing clear times. Evelynn was good about ganks (after 6) but with low clear times. Elise was good at both, but required SO high skill floor and high skill cap. I bought her recently, but she's gonna be unviable item 3070 item 3070

RIOT PLS DON'T.(It's TL;DR)