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Lulu needs a nerf!!!

Sponer··4 votes·1,034 views

Hello guys...

I really think that lulu should get a nerf... her spells are terribly OP as supporter, mid laner or even top lane...

Passive: Nothing so OP with that... but keep it on your mind that you can farm really well with lulu when you are playing as carry

Q: Really good damage as mid laner and even as a support too... i think you should nerf the base spell damage and buff the ap ratio of the skill... just to be balanced.

W: Cast on enemy: no problem... Cast on Ally: Well... Really??? 5 seconds speed and is getting more speed as higher as the ap is?? this little girl can't get ganked!!! for real!!

**E: **Nothing really op with that spell.. But keep it on your mind that the W+E on yourself pretty saves you on most situations.

R: Immediately transforms the most squeecy champ on the game to a good enough tank and carrying the most teamfights... that ulti keeps pretty hard the adc or apc alive and make it tanky enough to get focus on it!

Well... Imagine lulu in mid/top lane: tons of damage from 1 level with Q and a really good slow... long range Q with E(on a minion for example)+Q... on gank he just run back so fast with 5 seconds W and shield with E... and if they'd dive her?? she just turns into a really good tank with her ulti and then... disengage...

So safe in laning phase from ganks... so much support from her and damage in teamfights!! She's carrying a team pretty hard! What you think?!

6 Comments

Hyrum Graff4 votes

Lulu is a problem champ because she's oppressive in top and mid (but especially top). However, it's very hard to nerf solo lane lulu without nerfing support lulu. For example, if we do your proposed change (reduce q's base, increase AP scaling), that makes support lulu weaker (she has less AP) and mid or top lulu stringer (they have more gold -> more AP). On the other hand, if you buff her base but reduce her scaling, you've just made lulu an even safer pick. There's really no good option there.

I honestly haven't put a lot of thought into lulu because I don't play her and I don't see her that often. But Riot needs to think about the things that distinguish solo and support lulu, in order to figure out where to nerf and buff.

Sponer1 votes

thats true with her Q... but on every hand you'd see this, m.speed from W should get a lower duration... you just can't gank her... so much speed with the ap scaling or not and then the E's shiled and then ulti if W+E are not enough... i aggree too that the damage could remain the same but they should make her safeless on laning phase by nerfing her she's W speed duration and/or ulti's tankyness

Khodexus2 votes

What if, instead of lower speed duration, have it fall off? So right when she activates the spell, the speed is high, but by the end, it's only at about 20% of it's previous potency?

Also, does Q really need a slowing effect? It's already got great damage, and it pierces. I'd say either drop the slow (and the target can only hit by one lance), or make it impact only the first enemy hit, and drop the slow reduction over time?

As a final note, why not make 'help pix' function a bit more like Oriana's ball? Remove the 'assist duration' and have it purely be based on leash range/reusing the ability. Also, not sure why you need the 'target enemy' version of the power, but it doesn't bother me either way (and that one should still have a max duration).

Luner Hunter4 votes

another QQ support champ can do something besides support thread... wow they're a dime a dozen ... how about instead anylaner that does more than 100 dmg per skill or per hit gets nerfed to the 10~20 dmg the supports proportionally do? what about all them AP midlaners that support? they do too much dmg as a support QQ! and they can go mid and jungle too! QQ rito i no wanna learn to play vs things that arent the meta make it stop! MOMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sponer1 votes

lol you mad bro??? the most mid laners are doing nothing as supports... but my thread doesn't talk about lulu's damage at all... I focus mostly on she's escape spells... junglers and mid laners that doesn't have hard cc and jumps is totally waste of time to gank lulu cause with her W is running like hell for 5 seconds and she shield herself with her E... and doing tanky herself with her ulti... the same happens as a supp too... her damage is ok at all but her W,E,R supports her allies really well!!

Luner Hunter3 votes

so you're still whining that lulu is "op" as something besides a support because you can't just free gank her cuz she has ESCAPES and CC? well damn better buff lee sin cuz he cant 1-shot-no-skill-gank lulu! shes suppose to have the CC, the escapes, damage, and shields shes a SUPPORT and a MAGE just look at her champion info... i still fail to see the reason why so many ppl cry when supports leave bot lane... as for "midlaners going bot not doing anything" think REALLLLLLLLLY HARD about who you see down there that are mid laners! Morgana Lux Karma Kayle Orianna Zyra are all just right off the top of my head! ive seen lux, kayle, and morgana litteraly in that order in my last 3 games... i'm not sure where you've been but AP midlaners thrive botlane with the GP/5 items >.>

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