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[GAMEPLAY] Master Yi's Alpha Strike does not follow Jarvan IV's E+Q over walls

Sona Ping··1 votes·1,315 views

When Master Yi performs an Alpha Strike (Q) it places him next to the targeted enemy after the ability resolves. However, when targeting Jarvan the Fourth the ability does not follow Jarvan after he uses his E+Q combination to cross over a wall when he was on the other side of it when the damage was applied and the ability resolved and instead places Yi down without being moved to the target.

Estimated steps to recreate.

  1. Have a game with Master Yi and Jarvan IV on opposing team.
  2. Have Jarvan IV he his a Demacian Standard (E) with Dragon Strike (Q) after he has placed the flag on the far side of a wall .
  3. Have and Master Yi cast Alpha Strike on Jarvan IV Yi's Alpha Strike will cast successfully and he will be removed while the animation is performed and Jarvan IV takes damage on the far side of the wall but Yi will not be moved to the target, Jarvan, as intended by the ability.

11 Comments

RiotRiot Exgeniar4 votes

Depending on the timing of when you are reappearing and where you are reappearing, you may not reappear on the otherside of the wall. Since his 'teleport' follows all the rules which applies to Flash, you could have just 'failed' the Alpha Strike's timing to follow. I would need a video to verify, otherwise this sounds like it's working as intended.

Sona Ping1 votes

It wasn't me; I was spectating a live game. As I wrote, the ability was cast when Jarvan was in the middle of it and clearly only did damage when Jarvan was on the far side of the wall, having completed E+Q.

Harry Dresden1 votes

Maybe it's like flash, where if you flash into the middle of a wall, it'll push you to the nearest location that isn't in the wall. Where as, Jarvan is in the middle of the wall when Yi is supposed to come back from Alpha Strike, and get pushed to the closer wall.

Sona Ping1 votes

Thanks for the comment.

But even with that, that would just mean Yi would be spat out on the far side that Jarvan was on. The same way it has done with Bard.

1374342 votes

No. Yi would get spat out to where the closest wall is at the time he is suppose to reappear, which may be the near side. Yi is reappearing mid J4 pull- and mid pull J4 is likely in the middle of the wall. Yi's alpha doesn't stop J4's pull from completing, and being away from YI doesn't make J4 immune to the alpha damage proc.

Sona Ping1 votes

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No. Yi would get spat out to where the closest wall is at the time he is suppose to reappear, which may be the near side. Yi is reappearing mid J4 pull- and mid pull J4 is likely in the middle of the wall. Yi's alpha doesn't stop J4's pull from completing, and being away from YI doesn't make J4 immune to the alpha damage proc.

"where the closest wall is at the time he is suppose to reappear" Which is by Jarvan... on the far side. Like how I wrote.

"Yi's alpha doesn't stop J4's pull from completing," I didn't say that it did. I did not say anything like that.

"being away from YI doesn't make J4 immune to the alpha damage proc." I didn't say that it did. Where are you even getting these bizarre ideas from?

1374341 votes

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"where the closest wall is at the time he is suppose to reappear" Which is by Jarvan... on the far side. Like how I wrote.

No. At the end of alpha strike Yi appears next to the champion. But what is happening is that at the time that Yi is suppose to appear Jarvan is in the wall. A champion (Yi ) can't appear inside a wall. So the game calculates at the exact moment Yi is suppose to reappear where the closest allowable spot to place Yi is. That may be the near side (where J4 started his pull from) so that is where the game plops Yi's model. Meanwhile J4 continues the pull and goes to the other side. The game doesn't prolong the alpha strike if Yi is being placed in an inconvenient spot relative to the target. It places Yi as close to the target as it possibly can the moment Yi is suppose to leave alpha strike.

I didn't say that it did. Where are you even getting these bizarre ideas from? I was just referring to this in the opening post: Jarvan IV takes damage on the far side of the wall but Yi will not be moved to the target, Jarvan, as intended by the ability.

Sona Ping1 votes

Because... as I wrote... he was on the far side of the wall, not in the wall, when the ability resolved.

Which is demonstrated by "Jarvan IV takes damage on the far side of the wall but Yi will not be moved...."

Reading comprehension.

Dehitay1 votes

One of Sky Williams' videos where he plays as Vi has pretty much the same thing done in it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUruPbPi8U at about 8:38, you can see how Yi's alpha strike works when he reappears while the target is in a wall.

The Deckowner1 votes

Alpha strike lastshorter than j4 eq i think, so whikle j4 is still in the middle of a wall the alphastrike already ended and yi falls out.

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