Lissandra ult stopping zac e

Popstar Zac··2 votes·725 views

in the description of lissandras ult it says it is a stun. earlier this year you nerfed ahris charm to make it not stop dashes to line up with other stuns in the game yet lissandra ult is still stopping dashes. why is it that her ult is able to stop a dash when i is considered a stun yet other stuns dont do the same thing.

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JustMonika131 votes

Replay/ example?

Popstar Zac1 votes

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Replay/ example?

i was in a ranked game playin zac and mid dash onto their team she ulted me and it froze me midair. she did it multiple times that game and it won the fight for them because i was caught with my pants down due to something working in a way that according to the abilities description shouldn't do what it was doing.

Wolfess1 votes

Ahri's charm is not hard CC, while Lissandra's is, it's a targeted stun.

Popstar Zac1 votes

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Ahri's charm is not hard CC, while Lissandra's is, it's a targeted stun.

ahris charm was put into the category of stun and that is the reason they nerfed it to not stop dashes. and also, how is ahri charm not hard cc? lol

HARD CC = Any ability that can interrupt/stop an opponents channeled ability, AND remove control of the players movement. (Stun, Fear, Taunt, Knock-Up, Knock-back, Flip, Grab, Suppress, Charm, Onslaught of Shadows.)

SOFT CC = All other abilities that hinder opponents partially or fully in one of those two categories, or partially in both. (Slow, Silence, Blind, Snare, Reduce attack speed, Terrain)

JustMonika131 votes

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Ahri's charm is not hard CC, while Lissandra's is, it's a targeted stun.

The reason the OP is making this thread is because stuns are not supposed to stop dashes either. Dashes are only interrupted by airborne effects (knock ups, knock backs, pulls, knock asides, etc.) (minus Yasuo's dash, his is interrupted by all hard movement CC), and not by stuns or anything else. Every other hard movement CC will wait for the dash to finish, and then take effect.

Ahri's charm was the only exception to this, as it too stopped all dashes, but earlier this season (as in the first few patches early) it was changed so that it no longer stops dashes either.

Wolfess1 votes

you stated it above, it doesn't stop dashes, this probably leans towards Zac's E being categorized similarly as a self-displacement ability that will not be stopped by charm.

Wolfess1 votes

that sounds like really bad clarity. When dashing, they should consider that a champion would be moving and would be in kinetic motion, having used energy to accelerate and propel their body in a direction. Being charmed wouldn't cause any change in such energy or motion, whereas being frozen would certainly stop it as it is causing a physical interference in the motion path.

JustMonika131 votes

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that sounds like really bad clarity. When dashing, they should consider that a champion would be moving and would be in kinetic motion, having used energy to accelerate and propel their body in a direction. Being charmed wouldn't cause any change in such energy or motion, whereas being frozen would certainly stop it as it is causing a physical interference in the motion path.

And I shall state something that should be known by all... (cough especiallythosesaltyyasuohatersthatsayxshouldnotbeblockedbecausewindcantstopitinrealworldlogic cough)

Don't apply real world logic into a game.

The code is "Only airborne effects stop dashes (minus Yasuo)" Stuns don't. Snares don't. Fears or Charms or Taunts don't. Lissandra's ult isn't a "Freezing" effect under the code (freeze doesn't even exist in game); it's a stun.

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