Athene's Unholy Grail and Jungle items.

Eternitas·Jun 28, 2017·3 votes·1,055 views

Okay. Athene's new mechanic states it gains 5 AP per 25% mana regen. Shouldn't that be affected by Jungle items while in jungle, which have 225% Mana Regen boost?

There's a real tradeoff for using a support item on a jungler or a jungle item on a support, but it's an important observation to note.

Currently, Athene's does NOT take into account Jungle Base Mana Regen.

Only items that currently affect Athene's : Athene, Mikhail's, Frostqueen tiers, Ardent Censer, Redemption, and their components (but stacking all of them severely limits overall versatility, contradict each other's passives)

6 Comments

LostFr0stJun 28, 20171 votes

The mana regen is situational on the item, as denoted by "while in jungle." It's not just +base regen, so that's probably why it doesn't apply to it.

EternitasJun 28, 20171 votes

I'm aware of the 'technical' reason it doesn't work. When modifying an item the mods are usually pretty linear and this mod is no different. However, Riot has a history of making items interactive and cover secondary conditionals.

For example, look at what they've done to Healing items of all kinds, including the heals from Redemption and the interactions with Spirit Visage or Masteries. Technically, those items are not "Your Heals" but rather "Your Items' Heals" but they recently modified them to accommodate.

MerbstromJun 29, 20171 votes

Wait... I just checked last patch and it does give you ap for the mana regen in jungle. It updates slowly but does work.

EternitasJun 29, 20171 votes

I tried it on Karma and it didn't activate.

MerbstromJun 29, 20171 votes

That's weird, I tested it on nidalee and it seemed to work. I'd test it right now but my client is currently broken. I managed to get something like 170 ap off the item full build. Once, my client is back running I'll test and record some numbers. I think blue buff did some weird stuff too based on lvl but I'm not sure about that.

MerbstromJun 29, 20171 votes

Fixed my client so bam: http://imgur.com/SMsisNW http://imgur.com/QzZOKdC http://imgur.com/RkVudhv http://imgur.com/NsUwoJe