Losing LP for 4th place finish.

Tsweez·Jul 19, 2019·7 votes·9,613 views

This has happened three times now when I get 4th place I lose LP. Is this not guaranteed LP for 4th? I feel like I have heard two different things after reading this now.

You’ll gain a lot more LP when you finish a TFT game in first place, since you’re basically beating seven other players in that game. You’ll typically gain some LP if you finish 4th or higher, and lose some LP if you finish 5th or lower, but spots in the middle will have fairly small changes for most games.

24 Comments

CyberSn0wJul 28, 20196 votes

Hey riot can you please explane why i demoted from gold 1 to gold 2 75 lp for getting 4th place yes i was on 0 lp i just hit 0 lp and then i got 4th ???

MonärchAug 15, 20193 votes

Got demoted out of G1 for coming 4th...

BarkleyJul 26, 20192 votes

Working as intended.

If your MMR is extraordinarily low, IE - you've been losing a lot recently or whatever, you will lose LP in 4th.

Typically only 5-15 LP depending on how high you shot up on your win streak, and now you're losing because you're placed against people better than you. You went too far, too fast -- now the game is reeling you back in to where you probably belong.

Its a very small LP loss. If you're meant to climb, you'll counteract it quickly.

TheMidLaneMainJul 29, 20192 votes

Then the mmr system is messed up. I just won multiple games in top 4 to move from S2 to G4(without being in bot 4 once). Came 2nd in my first game at G4, then the next game I got 4th and lose lp? How does that make any sense?

McOx7Jul 31, 20192 votes

Yeah i just won 4 games in a row. And the next game i placed 4 and lost 4 lp....

AFKennedy25Jul 19, 20191 votes

Hi anyone not gaining LP in TFT right now?

TsweezJul 19, 20191 votes

Ive gotten 2nd twice in a row and didnt gain LP

ViproJul 20, 20191 votes

I have also lost LP for coming in 4th and had a friend gain LP for 5th in the same game.

ByrnesJul 21, 20191 votes

Same.....

https://i.imgur.com/FEIzEZb.png

Hagen is here yoJul 22, 20191 votes

lost 13 lp when getting 2nd!!??

Hagen is here yoJul 22, 20191 votes

you have to get 1st to gain LP??

ShivPalpatineJul 23, 20191 votes

Just had this happen, what gives rito?

YerrowchillJul 23, 20191 votes

This just happened to me. Hope it gets fixed soon. Glad I didnt win top 2 otherwise I will be losing 20+ lp lol

TheKnightOfNiJul 24, 20191 votes

You all thinking Rito is going to fix this? LUL think again.

ΡΎΚΕJul 25, 20191 votes

As with any ranked queue, y'all have a hidden MMR score. If you suck at TFT and lost too many games or ended below 4th too many times for the amount of games played then the game is trying to force you down the ladder since you obviously don't belong in the league you're in. I used to gain 90LP for 1st place climbing, I reached Plat 3, now I'm way more often than not between 6th and 2nd, very rarely first or last and the game figured I might have reached my level for the time being. As in any ranked queue, you're going to have to work for the wins so that your MMR gets back up. Stop complaining, you obviously ended 2nd twice in a row but how many times did you end the games below 4th ? Go figure, y'all thought you could climb that easily because they put a system that allows for more flexibility ? Nah lmao, if y'all suck y'all aren't going to climb, period.

CaykeAug 5, 20192 votes

Hate to revive a dead thread but it appears that if you’re queueing with someone who is lower ranked than you, or with lower MMR as lower rank == lower MMR always, your MMR will be taken as too high for the average MMR of all players combined and as a result of this the game assumes you SHOULD beat these players, thus getting 4th place would be the same as if you lost a rift game when your rank is D3 but you played vs predominantly Plat 2.

Hope this helps or answers some questions!

GreenXaliAug 24, 20191 votes

Very nice, good info Cayke. Thank you for the heads up!

HipposPlayTFTAug 23, 20191 votes

Then explain when on a new account that never lost why 1 4th place finish is -12lp....

S M Ε G M A NJul 28, 20191 votes

Yeah whatever about mmr, I consistently win my games, multiple top 1, sometimes stopped by top 2, and still loose lp at fourth place lol

BockaAug 18, 20191 votes

Hey riot can you please explain why I am demoted from gold 1 to gold 2 for getting 4th place? Yes, I was on 0 LP. I understand getting demoted instantly if I lose.

Lady KuraiAug 21, 20191 votes

Looks like it's still happening https://imgur.com/a/HZoMk4i

KiniiSep 9, 20191 votes

Same

XhaidenSep 24, 20191 votes

Still not fixed...

https://imgur.com/2Fqcuuc

ModJikkerSep 24, 20191 votes

Hey guys,

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