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Priorities: Not Stupid > Stupid

Sun Wukong Sun··1 votes·459 views

Before I put how I prioritize, I want to say that it also depends on where I am on the map and where my teammates are, I also always use pings.

Nexus > Nexus Turrets > Inhibitors > Base Turret > Baron/Elder Dragon > Middle Turret/Dragon/Rift Herald > Outside Turret > Minions > jungle buffs > champion kills

With that said, I can't stress more than enough that champion kills don't win matches!

I admit that I can go on tilt. But you have to be in an extreme violation of my priorities and ignoring my fallback pings.

Example: 5v5 team fight happens at our top outside turret. We can kill 3 of them. They run, all 5 of us are alive and at more than half health. Baron is there, enemy top lane is down to base turret, middle lane is down to middle turret. The 2 survivors on enemy team are Volibear item 3742 item 3009 (who just flashed away) and MissFortune item 3117 (who also just flashed away).

All 4 of my teammates Shyvana Caitlyn Annie Anivia chase them. I pinged the baron and turret as well as them to fall back from Volibear MissFortune until I got ping blocked. They don't catch them. We don't get any objectives. We all had to recall to come back with full health because the enemy team respawned.

I'm not saying I'm a good player, but I'm not a stupid player. I want to play with other not stupid people. If you aren't stupid, please send me a friend request so when can play together.

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Bídoof2 votes

Ok i just spectated the first 15 minutes of one of this guy's games.

Early laning:

  1. On top lane bruisers/tanks you always want corrupting potion. Maybe a dorans item, but most likely a corrupting potion.

  2. You played too safe early. When you lane vs another melee champ as irelia, you should start E and if you go lower HP than them, E auto them once or twice and back off. You win early tades

  3. You also forfeit alot of cs that were easy to get. Aatrox couldnt hit you under turret without drawing aggro, so dont be afraid to Q to a minion, stun him and then grab the cs and walk away.

  4. you did well trading vs him around levels 4-8, and i saw good recognition of "oh shit im losing" and knew to back off instead of fighting to the death. Try to think about the strengths of your opponent and the minon wave before fighting. Do you have alot of minions? Does he out duel you? Can you burst him low and walk away?

Levels 6-10

  1. You had a very nice coordinated invade with hecarim. Your warding was also pretty good and you respected the enemy jungler enough. Good game sense

  2. You followed up on one gank, but did not help when hecarim died to rengar. You should have seen rengar coming to kill hecarim, and try to E stun rengar. You could have turned it around 2v1 most likely. Also, I saw you had a pink for rengar which is good

  3. Dont be afraid to press your advantage. You got the red buff and a decent lead but did not go in for trades on aatrox when you had the advantage. With a red buff you can easily solo him as long as rengar isnt there

Didnt get to watch the full game but some stuff i saw, keep up the good work!

Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LvI 1 Bidoof,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=OAuEgowP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-06-05T19:11:52.372+0000)

Ok i just spectated the first 15 minutes of one of this guy's games.

Early laning:

  1. On top lane bruisers/tanks you always want corrupting potion. Maybe a dorans item, but most likely a corrupting potion.

  2. You played too safe early. When you lane vs another melee champ as irelia, you should start E and if you go lower HP than them, E auto them once or twice and back off. You win early tades

  3. You also forfeit alot of cs that were easy to get. Aatrox couldnt hit you under turret without drawing aggro, so dont be afraid to Q to a minion, stun him and then grab the cs and walk away.

  4. you did well trading vs him around levels 4-8, and i saw good recognition of "oh shit im losing" and knew to back off instead of fighting to the death. Try to think about the strengths of your opponent and the minon wave before fighting. Do you have alot of minions? Does he out duel you? Can you burst him low and walk away?

Levels 6-10

  1. You had a very nice coordinated invade with hecarim. Your warding was also pretty good and you respected the enemy jungler enough. Good game sense

  2. You followed up on one gank, but did not help when hecarim died to rengar. You should have seen rengar coming to kill hecarim, and try to E stun rengar. You could have turned it around 2v1 most likely. Also, I saw you had a pink for rengar which is good

  3. Dont be afraid to press your advantage. You got the red buff and a decent lead but did not go in for trades on aatrox when you had the advantage. With a red buff you can easily solo him as long as rengar isnt there

Didnt get to watch the full game but some stuff i saw, keep up the good work!

I didn't press the advantage when I had red buff because I watched Rengar destroy my pink buff. Thank you though. I finished the game negative because Aatrox passive. I killed him every time, but could never get away after he came back to life. Lastly, I had my ArPen runes instead of my AS runes, made a big difference.

Serf Master1 votes

Do yourself pass that criteria btw ?

Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4000 watts,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=OAuEgowP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-05T17:40:42.126+0000)

Do yourself pass that criteria btw ?

I think I do. I don't fall for recall bait. If a low health champion flashes away during the laning phase, I immediately start pushing the minion wave. I can care less about the kill because I'll get the gold in a minion wave.

I play low risk. Even when I dive, I'm sure I'll survive. Not dying > kills.

Bídoof2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=OAuEgowP,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-06-05T17:55:55.886+0000)

I think I do. I don't fall for recall bait. If a low health champion flashes away during the laning phase, I immediately start pushing the minion wave. I can care less about the kill because I'll get the gold in a minion wave.

I play low risk. Even when I dive, I'm sure I'll survive. Not dying > kills.

You seem to have the "idea" of all of this down but looking through your match history you have a lot of games where you just feed. Like 0-6, 0-11, etc. Its important to stop the bleeding when you are down in lane instead of trying to get kills 1v1 which is what seems to be happening.

Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

[{quoted}](name=LvI 1 Bidoof,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=OAuEgowP,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-05T18:03:14.540+0000)

You seem to have the "idea" of all of this down but looking through your match history you have a lot of games where you just feed. Like 0-6, 0-11, etc. Its important to stop the bleeding when you are down in lane instead of trying to get kills 1v1 which is what seems to be happening.

You should look into the details of the match, just like last match, I was ahead 4 - 0, but my teammates got destroyed. I finished the game 4 - 6, not once did I ever die to less than 2 people. before you say anything about map awareness, all 6 deaths were team fights that I was trying to avoid. But since I was tank, my team was threatening to report me for "not assisting team."

Numbers don't give insight into intelligence.

If mid, bottom and jungler have a combined KD or 0/18, you die even if you 2v1 or 3v2 gank.

In the games I lost my lane, that only happened after mid lane fed then I dealt with triple ganks.

I rather recall than die. Like I said, I don't take risk.

From sports to video games, you should know stats don't tell the whole story. Stephen Curry is a prime example.

Spectate one of my games, I can show you better than I can tell you.

Bídoof1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=OAuEgowP,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-05T18:36:35.859+0000)

You should look into the details of the match, just like last match, I was ahead 4 - 0, but my teammates got destroyed. I finished the game 4 - 6, not once did I ever die to less than 2 people. before you say anything about map awareness, all 6 deaths were team fights that I was trying to avoid. But since I was tank, my team was threatening to report me for "not assisting team."

Numbers don't give insight into intelligence.

If mid, bottom and jungler have a combined KD or 0/18, you die even if you 2v1 or 3v2 gank.

In the games I lost my lane, that only happened after mid lane fed then I dealt with triple ganks.

I rather recall than die. Like I said, I don't take risk.

From sports to video games, you should know stats don't tell the whole story. Stephen Curry is a prime example.

Spectate one of my games, I can show you better than I can tell you.

sure, you playing right now? ill spectate

Sheolraver1 votes

You are playing normals with players who have not reached level 30. Most even after they reach 30 have no real clue what they are doing in the game outside of whats happening on the screen in front of them that exact second.

That being said you have gone positive in 1 of your last 10 games. In normals thats really really bad. Playing normals is just a step above playing against bots. Maybe start worrying more about yourself and less about everyone else.

Sun Wukong Sun1 votes

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You are playing normals with players who have not reached level 30. Most even after they reach 30 have no real clue what they are doing in the game outside of whats happening on the screen in front of them that exact second.

That being said you have gone positive in 1 of your last 10 games. In normals thats really really bad. Playing normals is just a step above playing against bots. Maybe start worrying more about yourself and less about everyone else.

Not sure if you realize this, but it's a team game. If you go into a match only worried about yourself, you already have the wrong mentality. To reiterate this post, I never said I was good, I said I'm not stupid. I don't make mistakes. I've had a lot of people spectate my games and each one told me I should take more risks.

Example: I win my lane and gank mid, but I won't gank mid if he's losing lane because I think we could get double killed, or I'm concerned about enemy jungler if he doesn't have wards up.

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