Boards›Maps & Modes

ELIXIRS = A sandbox solution? (not a real sandbox...but may just be what we need)

Facecheck feeder·8/11/2015, 6:31:43 PM·17 votes·1,813 views

Below is my post from reddit, I would love this cummunity view and input. I know this is not a "real sandbox" but it would be a great mode. Simple and secure from Riots end. Here is link to the reddit page: http://redd.it/3ghp2g

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This thought has been plaguing my mind over the last few days. I think it could be a relatively simple way to add a sandbox mode that would fill the needs of players that want to test skills and builds and give game designers a simple tool. The Answer....Elixirs

Elixirs can give you the option of choosing what to test and the designers a way to add build paths to certain bots in this sandbox/test mode, Below are a few of ideas:

ELIXIRS:

Exp Elixir: experience to get to lvl 6,11,and 18 (3 different elixirs)

Gold Elixir: average gold for lvl 6,11 and then max gold ( I will explain the lvl 6,11 in a bit)

CD Elixir: 1 - 90% cd on summoners (testing flash), 2 - 80% cd on ult

Regen Elixir: Out of combat for 10 seconds, HP/Mana regen 300/per second

Revive Elixir: Death timer reduced 99%

In lol under customs just add a sandbox for summoners rift. In this sandbox mode bots will have a 3rd option (Beginner, Intermediate, and now TestBot). TestBots will just add these elixirs to there build order so at game start you can have lvl 18 (or lvl 6/11 see below) full build champs to test on and with.

Here is where i'm not sure how hard to implement it would be, I was thinking that each TestBot you select would have a different purpose. For example if you select:

TestBot lux, she will use Elixir exp (lvl 18), gold (max) and be a bot like we are used to just full build and lvl 18.

Testbot Ryze, he will use Elixir exp (lvl 6) and gold (lvl 6 which could be a amount if you had decent CS and maybe 1 kill). He would be a bot like your use to but coming to lane lvl 6 and has items that would fit a lvl 6.

TestBot Jax, he will use Elixir exp (lvl 11) and gold (lvl 11 which could be a amount if you had decent CS and maybe 3 kills). He would be a bot like your use to but coming to lane lvl 11 and has items that would fit a lvl 11.

This would allow a player to say practice all in with zed at lvl 6, 11 or 18 against what should be a normal build for his lvl.

Now for Aoe and Wombo Combos. Certain TestBots (Teemo because he needs to die alot) will buy there respective elixirs and go stand passively at certain locations. For example if you select:

Testbots Garen, Kat, Yi, Elise, soraka, they will use all the elixirs for lvl 18, with elixirs regen and revive, purchase their items then go stand near the dragon pit. With regen and revive you can test this over and over, if they dont die they will regen fast, if they do, they would already be homeguard running back. Maybe teleporting there like bots of doom did.

Same could be done for lvl 6 and 11. Or if you want only 1 or 2 there, select only Kat and Yi, ect..

TL;DR Elixirs could be a way for players to test different skills/builds on bots with normal items for there lvl. Simple way for Developers to add build path for different level of bots

Maybe a link to a list of what each Testbots purpose was and what there behavior would be so you can create a test mode to fit your need. Dragon/ baron spawn at start for testing purposes.

What do you guys think or how could this be tweaked?

11 Comments

Carry8/11/2015, 7:15:50 PM5 votes

This is such a stupid idea, I'm not sure why you reposted it or how it's getting upvotes. Riot is opposed to a sandbox mode because they don't want players to feel obligated to grind in a sandbox mode to hone their skills. Rioters want for "the best way to improve at LoL to be playing games of LoL!" This gimped out "Elixir" sandbox mode does nothing to address that issue. If Riot were willing to give us this, why would they not just give us an actual sandbox mode?

This is just a poorly implemented sandbox mode with limited functionality and an asinine "Elixir" system to replace a sandbox mode's UI. There is no reason to ask for this over an actual sandbox mode.

Baneofnoobs8/11/2015, 6:38:12 PM4 votes

I like it.

coltfan088/11/2015, 8:16:14 PM4 votes

This is a bad idea. Sorry.

We can all agree that this would be worse than a complete sandbox mode, right? OP says so himself:

I know this is not a "real sandbox"

So if it's not a real sandbox, then it has to have an upside to it that sandbox mode doesn't. I can't find that upside. This mode is wayyy less flexible than a sandbox mode needs to be. I'll take your example of using zed against bots that buy different elixirs by default. What if I want to practice killing a level 18 Ryze? There's nothing I can do about it.

Really, the main problem here is that this Elixir mode doesn't solve the problem with sandbox mode. Riot has said explicitly that the reason they are not implementing a sandbox mode is because a sandbox mode would encourage players to practice for hours rather than play League of Legends. This mode is the same thing as sandbox mode in that it is a way for players to grind out skills outside of a real game. The main difference between this mode and sandbox mode is that this mode is less flexible than sandbox.

Facecheck feeder8/11/2015, 6:35:22 PM3 votes

I think this mode would allow players to test things that would really happen in normal games. This mode each champion would still feel like he is supposed to.

Could improve skill or just for fun, for example how would a Full ap devour Gnar do late game... Almost no way to find out because if you play a bot game it would take 35 minutes to get items but the bots are so far behind you can just sit in base and get penta after penta. On paper extra 700-800 extra every 2 hits with fast attack speed seems legit. A normal game isn't the best because of toxic players 1) they would be mad if you said ap sated gnar 2) because it worked on under lvl item bots might not work in lane, so if your behind or feed, it can ruin game for 4 other people who may be having a decent game and this "trash ap gnar" needs reported.

I love trying weird builds but no where to get a real feel for them. Bot and current customs don't cut it because you snowball so far past the bots its unreal

dEAdbUs8/11/2015, 8:36:47 PM2 votes

I don't think that sandbox is a problem, Riot just don't want it.

Atlas Cant Carry8/12/2015, 4:52:00 PM2 votes

This isn't a sandbox..but I would use this mode in a heart beat. This would be a light weight way to try different things out in a somewhat normal environment.