I think it is unfair when you get into a match's champion select, you get a champion that you like then SOMEONE dodges... Now you have to re-que then you get a shitty champion. I suggest that you get to "Previous Champion" that has been dodged by other people last game, you get to go back to the champion that you had previously. And not consuming a re-roll.
AtheosisX3 votesI'm dodging ARAM permanently now...
Krigjer3 votesThe whole point of ARAM is to get something random, that you can't control. 'All random all mid'
if you get someone you like, good! If you get someone you don't like as much, tough luck.
Don't play the mode if you don't like it.
FDru3 votesDodgers should be put into queues with other dodgers, until they've completed X games without dodging.
No mercy for swine.
LeBlanc Jameś3 votesTake out the snowball... its lame.
Ice Weasel X1 votesTake out the snowball... its lame.
Irrelevant to the thread. This is about champion select dodging, not snowball spam.
LeBlanc Jameś3 votesYou're right. It's not relevant to the thread. That doesn't change the fact that the snowball is lame.
Ice Weasel X1 votesYou're right. It's not relevant to the thread. That doesn't change the fact that the snowball is lame.
And while I dislike the snowball heavily, harping on it in unrelated threads doesn't help those of us who want it nerfed harder or removed. It makes us look like whiny spammers. Please keep the snowball complaints to relevant threads.
LeBlanc Jameś1 votesFair enough. I accept your debate position.
ValyrianBlade2 votesI think they just need to deter people from dodging in ARAM more. There's no reason to dodge unless you have someone trolling. Don't like your champ and out of rerolls and no one wants to trade? Too bad, it's ALL RANDOM so don't play the game mode if you're not willing to accept whatever you get.
I've only dodged once for ARAM (played about 300). My main (jinx) was given to someone else, i asked to trade and was declined, then watched as jinx proceeded to be traded from one ally to the next, until all 4 players had had her and traded her. If my allies were willing to troll me like that in champion select (you all traded her so no one wanted her, why not let the main use her) i had no desire to play with them.
Otherwise, i play whoever I'm assigned. I rarely reroll, only on the very rare occasion where i get assigned a free week champion that i have no desire of ever playing and no idea how to play. i find it very frustrating when people dodge, and often once someone dodges i see 2 or more dodges in a row.
ARAM should track how frequently you dodge and prevent you from playing the mode at all if it determines you dodge too frequently... (at least temporarily, could warn you too ) .
Kholdstare131 votesI think they just need to deter people from dodging in ARAM more. There's no reason to dodge unless you have someone trolling. Don't like your champ and out of rerolls and no one wants to trade? Too bad, it's ALL RANDOM so don't play the game mode if you're not willing to accept whatever you get.
I've only dodged once for ARAM (played about 300). My main (jinx) was given to someone else, i asked to trade and was declined, then watched as jinx proceeded to be traded from one ally to the next, until all 4 players had had her and traded her. If my allies were willing to troll me like that in champion select (you all traded her so no one wanted her, why not let the main use her) i had no desire to play with them.
Otherwise, i play whoever I'm assigned. I rarely reroll, only on the very rare occasion where i get assigned a free week champion that i have no desire of ever playing and no idea how to play. i find it very frustrating when people dodge, and often once someone dodges i see 2 or more dodges in a row.
ARAM should track how frequently you dodge and prevent you from playing the mode at all if it determines you dodge too frequently... (at least temporarily, could warn you too ) .
Simpler than that.
1: Dodging counts as a loss against your elo for matchmaking. Period. No scumming for freelo.
2: Dodge penalties must be served while logged in. If you logout, the timer freezes. No account-hopping.
3: Dodge penalties are additionally applied against the IP address from which the dodger played. These penalties do tick down while logged out. Sure you can repeatedly proxy to get around this, but do you know what's way worse than east coast ping? Proxied ping. No relogging your accounts with penalties onto a proxy to wait it out while you continue scumming.
Ice Weasel X2 votesSimpler than that.
1: Dodging counts as a loss against your elo for matchmaking. Period. No scumming for freelo. 2: Dodge penalties must be served while logged in. If you logout, the timer freezes. No account-hopping. 3: Dodge penalties are additionally applied against the IP address from which the dodger played. These penalties do tick down while logged out. Sure you can repeatedly proxy to get around this, but do you know what's way worse than east coast ping? Proxied ping. No relogging your accounts with penalties onto a proxy to wait it out while you continue scumming.
Riot should never penalize IP addresses directly. It's less a matter of inconveniencing guilty parties, and more a problem of harming innocent people who may cycle or share those IP addresses. I'm lazy, so I'll just link something I've said before about IP bans: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/summoners-rift/RlsvcNso-perma-ip-bans-for-afks-in-ranked?comment=0005
Kholdstare131 votes[{quoted}](name=Ice Weasel X,realm=NA,application-id=LFfTlAky,discussion-id=K6KpzTdl,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-05-11T14:36:43.770+0000)
Riot should never penalize IP addresses directly. It's less a matter of inconveniencing guilty parties, and more a problem of harming innocent people who may cycle or share those IP addresses. I'm lazy, so I'll just link something I've said before about IP bans: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/summoners-rift/RlsvcNso-perma-ip-bans-for-afks-in-ranked?comment=0005
It's not a ban tho, just a brief time delay. Probably would be fixed to 15 minutes regardless of how much longer the actual penalty is, and only affect people who log on during that period rather than anyone who was continuously on.
"Sorry, someone recently dodged a match from this IP. Please wait [time] before attempting to join a match.
Ice Weasel X2 votesIt's not a ban tho, just a brief time delay. Probably would be fixed to 15 minutes regardless of how much longer the actual penalty is, and only affect people who log on during that period rather than anyone who was continuously on.
"Sorry, someone recently dodged a match from this IP. Please wait [time] before attempting to join a match.
And that could easily affect dozens of players at once. There are new threads constantly complaining about unfair queue timers already. Creating a situation where one person's legitimate punishment is applied to many unrelated people simultaneously would not be a welcome change.
8ake1 votesI propose a solution to this. Have a Random Champion Box on your summoner profile, that's the next champion that you will get when you queue up to ARAM. Once you play the game with that champion, or use a reroll, you will get a new champion in that box. Dodging the queue would no longer allow you to skip the champion, making dodging nearly irrelevant. Because unless you consume a reroll or play the match with that champ you will be given that random champion.
