100% Convinced ARAM has...

yobhguod·1/19/2015, 11:20:11 PM·65 votes·5,237 views

to be reworked to allow all champions to be picked. Seeing the same champions over and over again has ruined this game mode. I had the most fun with ARAM during the first 3-4 months of it, now? It's a toss up and a gamble. I can't win against teams with super poke or super sustain. It's obnoxious and I'm getting sick of it. Please at least balance it out. You nerfed healing, AWESOME! Now nerf poke.

58 Comments

ecneregilleb1/20/2015, 1:55:58 AM14 votes

Hey, why dont we all take a second and remember that ARAM is not to be taken seriously and is just for fun, not competition. Problem solved.

Ginny1/20/2015, 12:26:57 AM8 votes

Let's say a person owns 1 champion - Jayce. Now let's assume that they want to have Jayce every ARAM game.

If Jayce is in the Free Champion Rotation, they have a 10% chance - that's a lot - of getting Jayce in an ARAM. If Jayce is not in the Free Champion Rotation, they have a 9% chance - still a lot - of getting Jayce in an ARAM.

For one champion, that's a large chance when compared to, if you have the entire champion pool of 123 (as of the date of this post, 20/1/2015) champions, which is about a 0.8% chance. It's 10x more likely they'll get Jayce.

Those odds are way too easy to exploit via ARAM smurfs.

Note that these percentages are theoretical.

Zielmann1/20/2015, 12:09:18 AM6 votes

Nerf poke? No. Make it less common to get near-perfect team comps by making all champs available? Definitely.

ARAM is pretty much the only reason I play anymore, and it has gotten stale. As much as I love the new map and having an actual queue now, ARAM smurfs combined with the re-roll system have made it extremely frustrating to play now.

AikidoLawnNinja1/20/2015, 5:03:02 PM3 votes

I feel the biggest problem with ARAM is how damn long it takes to get into a game, due to tryhard whiners dodging every match until the champ composition is no longer "random". Out of re-rolls? Don't like your random champ? Team composition not optimal? Just dodge and try again! Ugh.

SelflessTeammate1/20/2015, 2:24:44 AM3 votes

But...I think that's kind of the fun.

I think of it like Ranked fighting games in which you don't know against whom you'll be playing. Sometimes it's just a counter-pick to your character, it happens, especially in fighters. (Baraka does not want to fight Sub-Zero. Scorpion does not want to fight Shang Tsung. Elizabeth definitely does not want to fight Sho. No one wants to fight Dante for any reason because he has no weaknesses. And so on.)

Granted, matches last a lot longer in ARAM, but I like the challenge if you kinda get screwed a bit. Sometimes we end up with four supports and a fighter.

And sometimes you pretty much win at champ select. I got Blitzcrank once...With Kalista, Lucian, Varus, and Jinx. Yeah, that went as you'd expect.

But it's like mystery skins, kinda. You just don't know how it'll really end up. Even if they "win" champ selection, that doesn't necessarily mean they're any good as that particular champ, you know? I've seen plenty of lousy Threshes and Fiddlesticks.

Inquizelus1/20/2015, 11:26:59 PM2 votes

Just like the complaints with iTunes feeling "not random enough" when it was completely RNG-based. "We want things to be less random so they only seem more random."

TonyTonyMordecai1/20/2015, 12:18:08 AM2 votes

The only way to nerf poke would be to make it so that the whole champion pool is available to everyone. Gives a chance to play as at least everyone when you want a game without any seriousness involved

X SkeletonCandy1/20/2015, 1:24:06 AM2 votes

Allow 3 bans per team, unlock all champions for everyone to crush those POS ARAM smurfs.

Sdf931/20/2015, 8:46:40 AM1 votes

Yea I think that would make the gamemode alot more fun. Personally sick of never seeing rare champs like Yorick or Urgot because no one owns them. It would be cool to see those kind of champs more often or atleast make it more possible to happen. Make it truly Outragous Taric

EpikFeeder1/20/2015, 11:11:55 AM1 votes

Actually, allowing all champs in aram would likely increase rp sells. Someone is more likely to buy rp from getting to play a champion randomly that they enjoy. Rather than grinding out the 6300 ip and not having any runes other than a standaard set of ad and ap runes -_-

Miku Lv991/20/2015, 1:07:18 PM1 votes

I think I might be worse than an ARAM smurf. I pretty much just don't buy any champs on my main that would be bad in ARAM. So I'm kinda done buying champs so I have like no use for IP already. I wouldn't put forth the effort to make a dedicated ARAM smurf account. ARAM would probably be better if you could just get anyone so I wouldn't have to worry about the drawbacks of buying new champs.

Although this does present a new problem. There are lots of champions that barely get to do anything in ARAM. If it were random of all champs, I would probably end up just deciding to dodge a whole lot of the time since I wouldn't want to play those really boring games.

HadesHellfire1/20/2015, 5:22:01 PM1 votes

yes, poke can be unbearable sometimes. and a lot of people would just say, "hey dodge the skillshot!" and yes this may be true but i cant dodge every skillshot every time. and with people like nid, jayce, etc. one shot you dont dodge can be the end of you. and not only that, nid and jayce def have a kit beyond just poke. so seriously, i think this needs at least some fixing for aram.

or at least make it where the random champions everyone rolls are just a bit less random to mak ea bit more of a balanced team.

Delphinium1/20/2015, 5:57:08 PM1 votes

I agree that ARAM need to allow all champions to be picked, but not sure about the nerfing pokes. If you specificly said about neft poke, that mean neft the champion?

P.S. Pokes does hurt, but Kayle is the one kills you.

Blainezy1/20/2015, 6:22:47 PM1 votes

I constantly get like the same 3 champs all the time so I just stopped playing it.

Dennner1/20/2015, 10:25:35 PM1 votes

it feels like when i play aram, i get a higher chance of getting Free to play champs, just because f how often i see them in game.

iPooUnicorns1/20/2015, 10:54:32 PM1 votes

The only reason I kept playing Poro King after I got the icons was for blind draft, if there was a howling abyss blind draft Q I would play it all the time.

What Is Smite1/20/2015, 11:00:02 PM1 votes

Have you ever seen a Super tank Comp? Well you can't really win against that since they can tank all your damage and deal their own steady DPS

Boulderox1/20/2015, 11:32:07 PM1 votes

just like katarina.... everyone practically owns her and if you dont get her, you can get 2 free chances to get her. BALANCED

Pengod1/21/2015, 5:12:48 AM1 votes

It's called all random for a reason. They can't just put in to increase or decrease a champs pick chance or whatever.

bluekhezzy1/22/2015, 5:29:02 AM1 votes

I think the randomness should calculate in team comp. Many times I have been on or against a team with nothing but tanks and that's not fun.

GLWuffie1/20/2015, 1:25:07 AM1 votes

Here's an idea, on ARAM, the more champions you have, the LESS LIKELY you are to get a free-week champ? I know that is kinda already the case, but what if it was implemented MORESO (like a bonus extra chance). This way if you're, say running a ARAM-based account, it'd be more likely to choose a champ you don't have (like if you own 7 champs or less?) and guide you to a free week champ. Not to say that this will happen 100% of the time, but here's the reasoning.

For ARAM, if you don't have a lot of champions, it's a good way to kinda see and experiment with champs you don't normally play as (free week). When you DO have quite a bit of champions to choose from, you show versatility (for the most part) and that you don't rely on a specific small range of champs.

maybe like:

0-3 champs = 90% free week chance (FWC) 4-8 champs = 75% FWC 9-14 champs = 60% FWC 15-19 = 50% FWC 20+ = regular RNG used

...numbers adjusted to whatever, this is just a vague example.

~GL

Gym Leader Yaki1/25/2015, 10:12:25 PM1 votes

Coudln't agree more even if I wanted to. Seeing either Lux, Nid, Jayce or AP ezreal every single game just isn't normal. Specially when you face 4 luxes in a row.

Qsario1/20/2015, 4:33:30 AM1 votes

I'd love to see this. I suspect Riot might be worried that the mode would sub for buying them, but I wonder.

I would expect a bit of QQ over people getting, say, Poppy or someone they can't play (which is silly, she's actually quite good vs. squishy teams... I've carried hard with her on ARAM).