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Resurgence in ARAM dodges

Gavran··2 votes·1,451 views

First I'd like to gather information: is anyone else seeing a lot more dodges lately? It's possible I've just hit an MMR where it's more common or something, but I've been seeing an average of three dodges a game (though there have been seven while I was writing this...) and it's getting almost as annoying as pre-queue days.

Second, if it's not just me, what can we do about it? I suspect the problem is people dodging and hopping onto other accounts personally, but I can't say for sure. I believe Riot has the ability to detect when that happens, but so far hasn't done anything that publicly uses that information that I'm aware of, so I'm not totally hopeful they'd target it specifically here... so what can we do? Increased timers? Re-roll penalties? There has to be something. The more it happens the more it's going to keep happening.

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Earl Eulrich2 votes

I guess just giving them the same champ they had in the last lobby after they dodge a game would help a lot against dodgeing in Aram.

Gavran2 votes

Now that is an idea that I quite like! It doesn't punish people who dodge because they can't / no longer want to play that game, but someone who dodges whenever they get melee can either play through like the rest of us do or stop playing. (And of course, I do believe that a lot of times you can have fun with a champion you didn't expect to enjoy. Part of why I love the mode.)

Did you just think of this, or have you seen the idea before? I honestly think it'd be worth seeking out Red attention if it's likely they haven't seen it.

A few minor things: what if multiple people are locked to the same champion? It might be possible to keep them from being put in the same game, but even if it is possible it isn't a super elegant solution. ** When a game is dodged, should everyone be locked to their champions or just the person who quit? If everyone is locked, do spent re-rolls still count?**

I think a lot of the frustration in dodging comes from those "I finally got a champ I wanted and then someone dodged" moments, so it could alleviate that if everyone was champion-locked. Of course statistically speaking dodges ought to save you from champions you don't want to play at roughly the same rate, but I think negativity bias might come into play here to make dodging feel worse than locked champions.

On the other hand, I almost always burn my rerolls to try to get something the team needs, and it'd be kind of frustrating if I, for example, rerolled to get an ADC on an all AP team only to have someone dodge and end up on an all AD team with no rerolls.

Maybe I'm overthinking this though, If the system actually got people to stop dodging because they didn't like their champion, dodging should happen way less often anyway. Maybe so rarely that it doesn't matter if everyone else keeps the same champion or not.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

Did you just think of this, or have you seen the idea before? I honestly think it'd be worth seeking out Red attention if it's likely they haven't seen it.

I made my own thread about Aram-flaws a good while back...http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/summoners-rift/3wLdwtiE-aram-mabye-make-the-r-finally-stand-for-random

Gavran1 votes

Oooh a red name that specifically said they were working on ARAM. That settles it then, I'm going to try to make sure your idea is out there. Tomorrow though. Super tired. Thanks for sharing. :)

shaiith2 votes

My personal experience records at 15 total dodgers in a row. Second best is 9 in a row and third is 7.

Gavran2 votes

Impressive. :p

It wasn't in ARAM, but I once sat down with about an hour to play some draft normals, and between the long champion select and dodges it took 24 minutes to get into a game. At which point I realized I was running out of time, so I had to delay my plans (though I was just meeting a friend so no big deal.) Still that was probably only like six lobbies, just exacerbated by last minute dodges. I'd definitely have given up before 15.

Levyathyn2 votes

I don't have many dodges, really. Just when my team gets a lot of overpowered champions and I roll someone great for ARAM that I'm good with and we have confident ranked players at Gold or even higher that are friendly. Just in those occasions.

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Jeddite1 votes

New and exciting topic -- and with a mountain of totally-not-anecdotal evidence, too. Yes, players dodge in ARAM. They also dodge in Summoner's Rift, Twisted Treeline, Crystal Scare -- and even bot games.

Gavran1 votes

Aren't you a delightful soul?

I specifically made this thread because my personal experience has changed recently and I wanted to know if anyone else's had, to determine if it wasn't just a fluke. Seriously, that's the first sentence - do you just run around getting cynical about thread titles all day?

I have over 1500 ARAM games played, so I'll do fine without the patronization, and I wouldn't have made this thread if the amount of dodging I've been seeing, and my friends have been seeing, over a period of weeks, wasn't unusual. Thanks for contributing nothing though. Real helpful. Truly.

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